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I just ordered a Bachmann USRA 0-6-0 with smoke. It looks like it is from the 80's or 90's. DO they work well?
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Posted - December 16 2014 : 3:41:01 PM
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quote:I just ordered a Bachmann USRA 0-6-0 with smoke. It looks like it is from the 80's or 90's. DO they work well?
Originally posted by bnsfIAÂ -Â December 16 2014Â :Â 3:22:13 PM
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They run OK when they are in good condition. Older Bachmann QC is a roulette. If it lasted until now it might be one of the survivors.
The axle sleeves and gears have a tendency to split.
If it doesn't work, you can send it to Bachmann with $25 and they will most likely send you their current-production 0-6-0 which has been upgraded with a better motor.
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Posted - December 16 2014 : 4:22:38 PM
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The newest version is the best. Better gears and has a flat can motor.
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Posted - December 16 2014 : 4:49:24 PM
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quote: quote:I just ordered a Bachmann USRA 0-6-0 with smoke. It looks like it is from the 80's or 90's. DO they work well?
Originally posted by bnsfIAÂ -Â December 16 2014Â :Â 3:22:13 PM
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They run OK when they are in good condition. Older Bachmann QC is a roulette. If it lasted until now it might be one of the survivors.
The axle sleeves and gears have a tendency to split.
If it doesn't work, you can send it to Bachmann with $25 and they will most likely send you their current-production 0-6-0 which has been upgraded with a better motor.
Originally posted by Autobus Prime - December 16 2014 : 3:41:01 PM
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That's nice. I'm getting it on the 21st. so we'll see how it works.
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Posted - December 16 2014 : 8:29:04 PM
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Mine has run for a lot of years, but it's getting noisy and it no longer smokes. I'm sending it back to Bachmann after the holidays for a repair or replacement, whatever they decide to do.
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Posted - December 16 2014 : 8:44:21 PM
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quote:Mine has run for a lot of years, but it's getting noisy and it no longer smokes. I'm sending it back to Bachmann after the holidays for a repair or replacement, whatever they decide to do.
Originally posted by RDC1Â -Â December 16 2014Â :Â 8:29:04 PM
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Do the new ones smoke?
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Posted - December 16 2014 : 9:48:44 PM
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Yep they are great little locos.
If it does have a smoke unit, don't expect much as it is more of a novelty than a serious feature.
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Posted - December 16 2014 : 11:18:42 PM
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I once saw a Bachmann 0-6-0 that had a traction tire on both the left and right rear drivers. This lifted the center drivers clear off of the tracks, leaving only the front pair for electrical pickup. The tender was just along for show and had all plastic wheels. I don't know if that's the same engine we're discussing on this thread.
Does the engine under discussion have those traction tires on the rear axle or am I thinking of a whole other engine?
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Posted - December 17 2014 : 09:30:58 AM
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I have one of those things. The newer ones run pretty good unless the tracks are dirty. On top of that, they have some pretty sweet valve gear to enjoy watching when it's running. Of course, it might also need lube since it's been so long.
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Posted - December 17 2014 : 11:07:32 AM
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| RDC1 says send it back to Bachmann. Can I do that with one I bought used, or is it only the original purchaser with all the receipts?
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Posted - December 17 2014 : 11:19:25 AM
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quote:I once saw a Bachmann 0-6-0 that had a traction tire on both the left and right rear drivers. This lifted the center drivers clear off of the tracks, leaving only the front pair for electrical pickup. The tender was just along for show and had all plastic wheels. I don't know if that's the same engine we're discussing on this thread.
Does the engine under discussion have those traction tires on the rear axle or am I thinking of a whole other engine?
Originally posted by scsshaggy - December 16 2014 : 11:18:42 PM
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I believe thats it
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Posted - December 17 2014 : 12:11:01 PM
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quote:RDC1 says send it back to Bachmann. Can I do that with one I bought used, or is it only the original purchaser with all the receipts?
Originally posted by Helm - December 17 2014 : 11:07:32 AM
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All you need is a Bachmann item and the $25 fee. Bachmann has the option to 'repair or replace'. In general, they replace. I'm sure it's cheaper.
If they don't have the item in the line anymore, they'll telephone and suggest a substitute. In most cases this will be better in quality than the original. :)
If the item is a recently-bought new item, and you have the proof of purchase, there's no fee.
Some details here:
http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/service.php
There is also an RMA form but I don't think it's absolutely required either.
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Posted - December 17 2014 : 11:35:21 PM
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What Shaggy described is the old pancake motored version. I have two from 1981 in storage whose axles are still intact and still run fine.
The newer versions are much more reliable. I doubt they'll have any problem with a direct replacement, since those things are a staple of the standard line and train sets.
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Posted - December 18 2014 : 12:15:54 AM
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quote:What Shaggy described is the old pancake motored version. I have two from 1981 in storage whose axles are still intact and still run fine.
Originally posted by NickelPlate759Â -Â December 17 2014Â :Â 11:35:21 PM
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Thanks for the info, Nelson?
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Posted - December 29 2014 : 9:36:31 PM
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Just got it.
Runs noisy.
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Posted - December 30 2014 : 10:28:24 AM
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bnsf1a
Need parts or information? Look here:
http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/references.php
http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=66_68_155
This is Bachmann train set engine with the can motor and a MDC slope tender.
/tyco/forum/uploaded/JRG1951/20140706233820_TaRG_060.gif
I hope to retro-fit this Bachmann valve gear to this engine.
/tyco/forum/uploaded/JRG1951/20141230102501_ValveGearBach060.gif
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Posted - December 30 2014 : 12:43:15 PM
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quote:Just got it.
Runs noisy.
Originally posted by bnsfIAÂ -Â December 29 2014Â :Â 9:36:31 PM
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That's the gearing. Here's the drawing for the older units.
http://www.hoseeker.org/assemblyexplosionbachmann/bachmann060usradiagram1990.jpg
On some of the Consolidations I've found that the reduction gear isn't solid, but has these 3 spiral spokes between the hub and teeth. They are quieter than the solid gears, but still noisy. I assume this was a later revision due to the noise issue.
/tyco/forum/uploaded/NickelPlate759/20141230124216_Bachmann 2-8-0 Reduction Gear .JPG
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Posted - December 30 2014 : 2:02:08 PM
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bnsfIA,
If it is a pancake motored engine?
My advice, use it as a non-running prop on your layout. The old pancake motor drives are more trouble than they are worth. The drive is a fragile design and the motor sucks. The second and third generation Bachmann USRA 0-6-0 engines have can motors and run much better.
Read the post about the Bachmann 2-8-2.
http://www.tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=14638&SearchTerms=duck
To identify the motor type see this link.
http://www.tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11848&SearchTerms=bachmann,4,8,4
Regards, John
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Posted - December 30 2014 : 10:17:18 PM
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quote:
Actually I am just going to replace it by Bachmann's warranty.
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Posted - December 30 2014 : 10:24:30 PM
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basfIA,
Sounds like a plan to me.
Regards, John
Edited by - JRG1951 on December 30 2014 10:27:24 PM
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Posted - December 31 2014 : 8:42:26 PM
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quote:  I myself have one of those can motor locomotives and man, they run very smoothly as long as the track and wheels are clean of course because if not, it runs very choppily because of the complex linkage.
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Posted - October 07 2015 : 11:35:03 PM
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Hmmmm.........
So what I'm hearing is:
If I were to go to a train show, and buy an old, pancake motored, pewter wheeled GS-4 Southern Pacific Daylight 4-8-4....
And send it to Bachmann with $25 - and then I would get a NEW Daylight 4-8-4 w/DCC ???!!!
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Posted - October 08 2015 : 6:01:02 PM
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No most likely not! You might get something new.
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Posted - October 08 2015 : 7:13:52 PM
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quote:No most likely not! You might get something new.
John
Originally posted by JRG1951Â -Â October 08 2015Â :Â 6:01:02 PM
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I sent in an older Niagara 484, and they sent me a brand new UP Greyhound!
For $25
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Posted - February 01 2016 : 1:14:49 PM
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I ended up with it in trade but SCVR sent in his 2-8-2 with a pancake motor and he got a Spectrum 2-10-2 with DCC.
I have two 0-6-0's in UP and Rio Grande that are for sale and are of late nineties vintage. THey run decent so if you get sometihng similar you will be ok.
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Posted - February 02 2016 : 2:30:11 PM
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quote: quote:No most likely not! You might get something new.
John
Originally posted by JRG1951Â -Â October 08 2015Â :Â 6:01:02 PM
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I sent in an older Niagara 484, and they sent me a brand new UP Greyhound!
For $25
Originally posted by bnsfIAÂ -Â October 08 2015Â :Â 7:13:52 PM
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Nice!
I too was inspired by this thread to do something with some of my clunkers, so I sent in two 0-6-0s with split-gearitis (loco only, did not send the tenders).
Then I thought, what the heck, and gathered the broken remnants of a poor old 1980s production 4-4-0 Jupiter that had reacted badly to a trip to the floor and some of my long-ago repair attempts. I did not even try to assemble the pieces. It was literally a ziploc bag of parts.
I sent in $25 each once Bachmann made their evaluation, and got back a brand-new 0-6-0 and 2-6-0 sans tenders, and a lovely current-production 4-4-0:
They all run nicely, and the 0-6-0 has smoke.
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Posted - February 02 2016 : 4:30:56 PM
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Heard they stand by the warranty but it takes a while to get anything back.
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Posted - February 03 2016 : 08:46:12 AM
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quote:Heard they stand by the warranty but it takes a while to get anything back.
Originally posted by Redneck Justin - February 02 2016 : 4:30:56 PM
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I sent mine out over Christmas and they were actually rather fast, which surprised me, since I would expect that to be a busy time for them. The locos were sent out around 12/3 I think, and by 12/16 I had gotten back one new 0-6-0, sent with a bill for $25. (I hadn't actually sent them any money yet at that point!)
Sometime between then and Christmas, they called me at home to give me an update, and said that the other two were being worked on, and could I please send the $25 repair fee for each. So I sent in the fees at that point, and by 1/2 I had all three locos in hand. Not sure why the payments were handled differently, but it sounded like different technicians were working on the 3 'repair' jobs (which were notated as 'chassis replacement' on the website, which posts running updates on your repair jobs once you start a ticket).
I would guess that the time taken depends on how large a seller the item is. I would guess that things like the 0-6-0 or the F7 are large-volume sellers and therefore kept in stock; something like a 2-10-2 sells more rarely and might involve some delay until there is enough stock to fulfill warranty returns.
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