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hey I just thought since we is doing a a favorite Tyco cars
What is the car &/or locos you hate absolutely?
Any car or loco is ok Does not have to be Tyco
Can be unprotoypical, doesn't run right, etc etc
Post pics, reason you hate it & why its in your collection
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 Posted - March 31 2014 : 9:08:19 PM
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AHM/Rivarossi 2-8-8-2 Articulated
Reason: I got one. Unused in box, full paperwork. FOR FREE in a box of other stuff.
Took it apart. Can't get it back together. 
Kicking myself to this day for having done something so stupid.
(image obviously not mine, scalped from ebay)
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Posted - March 31 2014 : 9:27:01 PM
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Hey PRR,
How much do you want for the 2-8-8-2? I might buy it, pieces and all. I promise not to part it out.
The locos I hate are not in my collection. If they don't look right or run right, I make them right.
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Posted - March 31 2014 : 11:36:37 PM
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SEE? this IS a good idea for a subject
I'll bet loco has a stupid yet easy problem with it
ok, NC shortlines but we wanna see it in RUNNING order
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Posted - April 01 2014 : 12:12:41 AM
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quote:SEE? this IS a good idea for a subject REALLY??
Originally posted by microbusss - March 31 2014 : 11:36:37 PM
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Leave it to MicroBen to create a subject of HATE.
That word is so final. There's nothing about the hobby that I "hate"...
In the mid 70s, I was not happy that the new Life-Like Crane I had bought, did not pull well. I didn't hate it, I placed it on a side track by my cabinet factory.. In 2001, I bought its replacement.
I was also not thrilled that my Tyco Santa Fe piggyback trailers moved around on their flat car. So what did I do in the last few years? I bought over 50 Tyco piggyback flat cars w/trailers...
I just Can't find hate in my hobby(s)
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Posted - April 01 2014 : 12:28:21 AM
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Bachmann Pan Cake Motor 2-8-2. Loved the look and hated the drive train.
Ran like a ruptured duck. New motor, tuned and lubed. in less than an hour it again acted like a ruptured duck. White pan cake motor was poor design.
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Posted - April 01 2014 : 12:59:14 AM
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True that!!^^ Have one of those. Replaced 2 axles, full running gear rebuild, still not a great runner. Oh well
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Posted - April 01 2014 : 6:19:39 PM
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I don't have anything that I hate either. And if there has been anything I really didn't care for it has been sold or traded.
But if there IS something in the model train world I don't care for it has to be the TV show/Super Hero themed trainsets. I guess from a pure collectible viewpoint I can see it, but other than that....I don't get it.
I mean...I lose it when I try to think of the operations and all that. What if there is a freight train already occupying the route that the A-Team needs to take? Do they call up the dispatcher and demand priority routing? And don't they think it's a little counterproductive to have "A'Team" emblazoned all over their rolling stock? Sorry Micro-B 
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Posted - April 01 2014 : 6:43:20 PM
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Oh man. I'm not sure on this one. So many bad locos that are saved by a few good qualities.
-Steve
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Posted - April 01 2014 : 6:59:11 PM
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| I dislike Rivarossi rod assemblies. Could be simplified so much. Also their drive trains are a problem.
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Posted - April 01 2014 : 7:34:13 PM
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quote:I don't have anything that I hate either. And if there has been anything I really didn't care for it has been sold or traded.
But if there IS something in the model train world I don't care for it has to be the TV show/Super Hero themed trainsets. I guess from a pure collectible viewpoint I can see it, but other than that....I don't get it.
I mean...I lose it when I try to think of the operations and all that. What if there is a freight train already occupying the route that the A-Team needs to take? Do they call up the dispatcher and demand priority routing? And don't they think it's a little counterproductive to have "A'Team" emblazoned all over their rolling stock? Sorry Micro-B
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I agree totally.... Don't like super hero anything! Way too corny
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Posted - April 01 2014 : 7:41:24 PM
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quote:I dislike Rivarossi rod assemblies. Could be simplified so much. Also their drive trains are a problem.
Originally posted by LGLrr845Â -Â April 01 2014Â :Â 6:59:11 PM
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What's wrong with the Rivarossis? I have a Rivarossi 4-4-0 that I got for $35 that works beautifully.
-Steve
"A lot of modellers out there who go to these train shows see broken HO stuff and go, 'This is useless' when, in reality, they can still be used for modeling whether it's as a prop on your layout or a cool project to make something old new again."
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Posted - April 01 2014 : 7:55:52 PM
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Can't really think of a car or loco I hate... pretty much everything can be kitbashed, detailed and weathered into submission. 
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Posted - April 01 2014 : 10:13:48 PM
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If it's high geared or won't pull well as a frieghter, off it goes! Rivarossi makes a tricky steamer to work on at times depending on the job. Still great stuff though. I don't like Mehano/Yugo engines or Life Like train set stuff like there track and Bachmann ez-track turn-outs.
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 Posted - April 01 2014 : 10:21:14 PM
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quote:Can't really think of a car or loco I hate... pretty much everything can be kitbashed, detailed and weathered into submission.
Originally posted by Redwoods - April 01 2014 : 7:55:52 PM
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I like your philosophy Redwoods 
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Posted - April 02 2014 : 01:12:16 AM
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I knows what I hate & that is the Tyco Power Torque motors
Also the smell of motors running ewww
Dumb thing is about the PTs is I'm fixing them
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Posted - April 02 2014 : 01:14:41 AM
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quote: quote:I dislike Rivarossi rod assemblies. Could be simplified so much. Also their drive trains are a problem.
Originally posted by LGLrr845Â -Â April 01 2014Â :Â 6:59:11 PM
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What's wrong with the Rivarossis? I have a Rivarossi 4-4-0 that I got for $35 that works beautifully.
Originally posted by kovacste000Â -Â April 01 2014Â :Â 7:41:24 PM
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All the bearings and washers on the rods and valve gear. And the placement of motor on the larger engines are strange and difficult to get a motor that fits right.
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Posted - April 02 2014 : 5:02:15 PM
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I don't find old Rivarossi difficult to work on, and I like the complexity of their running gear, which at least was customized for each type of steamer instead of being generic like Mantua's. It isn't even the cab-mounted motors, it's the huge screw boss at the front of the cab that prevents using a longer can motor without grinding it away and finding another means of attaching the rear of the boiler. That's my biggest RR peeve.
Old Bachmann like the Mikado-ized Consolidation above is far worse. One piece plastic valve gear hangers / crosshead guides that love to break, crummy drives, split axles, lots of plastic flash, a quarter inch layer of paint, etc., etc...
If I had to say I hated any model trains it would be Brown Box era Tyco and trainset quality Life-Like.
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Posted - April 02 2014 : 6:11:29 PM
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quote:I don't find old Rivarossi difficult to work on, and I like the complexity of their running gear, which at least was customized for each type of steamer instead of being generic like Mantua's. It isn't even the cab-mounted motors, it's the huge screw boss at the front of the cab that prevents using a longer can motor without grinding it away and finding another means of attaching the rear of the boiler. That's my biggest RR peeve.
Old Bachmann like the Mikado-ized Consolidation above is far worse. One piece plastic valve gear hangers / crosshead guides that love to break, crummy drives, split axles, lots of plastic flash, a quarter inch layer of paint, etc., etc...
If I had to say I hated any model trains it would be Brown Box era Tyco and trainset quality Life-Like.
Originally posted by NickelPlate759Â -Â April 02 2014Â :Â 5:02:15 PM
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Same with me to be honest. I do like the older, more durable Tycos from the Tyco/Mantua era.
-Steve
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Posted - April 02 2014 : 8:55:45 PM
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quote:SEE? this IS a good idea for a subject
I'll bet loco has a stupid yet easy problem with it
ok, NC shortlines but we wanna see it in RUNNING order
Originally posted by microbusss - March 31 2014 : 11:36:37 PM
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If by stupid yet easy problem, you mean the entire thing is in several pieces in a cardboard box, then yes. And I'll pass on selling it. I got that monster for free, now I'll make the damn thing work if it kills me!!! Anything smaller, I can fix or bash or throw parts at till it works, but this seems to just barely beyond my capacity for understanding how I got it broken the way I did. Grumble grumble.
I can't really hate too much on anything else. Things like BN sharks might make my inner prototype-nazi cringe a bit, but they're honestly too funny to hate. And those old AHM engines might run like crap sometimes, but it's amazing what you can do with them. I got an AHM SW1 in illinois central colors that you couldn't kill with a brick, and the C-liners are fun kitbash fodder when they don't run any more.
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Posted - May 17 2014 : 8:25:27 PM
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"Hate" may be to strong a word for my product pet peeves. I have to admit though that there are plenty of model railroad items that I have come across that have not lived up to expectations. Most of my pet peeves revolve around poor engineering and/or manufacturing problems. Among the worst that I have had experience with include:
Bachmann's Gandy Dancer handcar: Prone to failure and if taken apart almost impossible to reassemble.
Tyco brown box locomotives with either the late plastic MU-2 drives or the Power Torque Trucks: Broken gears and burned out motor windings.
Brass Rail Track: One word, oxidation.
All sellenoid operated switch machines: Burned out windings and melted plastic covers.
Lighted Bumpers: Old incandescent grain-of-wheat light bulbs would melt the plastic bumper.
Weight activated Grade Crossing Accessories: Underweight cars plus stiff pressure plates equals derailments.
Talgo style truck mounted couplers: Guaranteed derailments on back up moves.
X2F NMRA Horn hook couplers: More guaranteed derailments on back up moves, even on cars with body mounted couplers. Not to mention the things are down right ugly!
Woodland Scenic ballast: Crushed walnut shells dyed to look like rock, this stuff never looked right to me
Tyco Trainset Power Packs: These things expired faster than milk on my first layout.
That's all I can come up with at this time, but I will probably add more as I think of them....
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Posted - May 17 2014 : 8:57:29 PM
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| Bachmann 4-8-4's, I have them all and half of them only work when sometimes!!
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Posted - May 17 2014 : 8:58:13 PM
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Lighted Bumpers: replace with LEDs
Weight activated Grade Crossing Accessories: no arguement there Replace with light sensor crossing signals
Tyco Trainset Power Packs: really? what causes that?
Woodland Scenic ballast: crush it smaller 
All sellenoid operated switch machines: modernize it with better electronics
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Posted - May 17 2014 : 9:20:59 PM
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Woodland Scenic ballast.. Crush it smaller ?? Duh??? Am I wrong or isn't it offered in more than one grit ? Look at Jerry's from W,VA.. I beLIEve it's medium and still looks great !
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Posted - May 17 2014 : 10:26:56 PM
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I don't really have any specific model trains I have now that I hate because I avoid the bad locomotives and equipment.
-Steve
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Posted - May 18 2014 : 1:05:06 PM
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Some of the early brass Sudyam drives are my peeves. I've got both a "blimp" and a Westinghouse steeplecab that for some reason just wont work right on ANY track! and the spring "belts" are a proverbial pain!
just me Ray... and just because I have Tyco doesn't mean I am not a model railroader
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Posted - May 19 2014 : 11:32:42 PM
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I'm gonna hate on brass track too. I just spend twenty minutes polishing a #6 right-hand switch with a bright boy and then I realized it wasn't worth it.
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Posted - May 21 2014 : 12:30:36 AM
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| Battery operated quasi-euro/asian looking generic sets with plastic snap together track that every museum gift shop or tourist railroad gift shop seems to sell. These things are always poorly made, don't last and don't follow any known prototypes. As such they do nothing to promote our hobby. That said, i did take one that was given to me as a gift and give it the treatment. It was a Hawthorn Village set themed for the movie It's A Wonderful Life. I repainted the entire set and applied decals for the Nickel Plate Road....don't ask. I will post pics later if pushed
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Posted - May 21 2014 : 12:38:17 AM
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quote:I'm gonna hate on brass track too. I just spend twenty minutes polishing a #6 right-hand switch with a bright boy and then I realized it wasn't worth it.
Originally posted by PRR 4800Â -Â May 19 2014Â :Â 11:32:42 PM
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So I should just scrap my brass track collection? 
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Posted - May 21 2014 : 06:37:28 AM
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quote:Battery operated quasi-euro/asian looking generic sets with plastic snap together track that every museum gift shop or tourist railroad gift shop seems to sell. These things are always poorly made, don't last and don't follow any known prototypes. As such they do nothing to promote our hobby. That said, i did take one that was given to me as a gift and give it the treatment. It was a Hawthorn Village set themed for the movie It's A Wonderful Life. I repainted the entire set and applied decals for the Nickel Plate Road....don't ask. I will post pics later if pushed
Originally posted by metalsmith1Â -Â May 21 2014Â :Â 12:30:36 AM
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Consider this a PUSH! Show the pics
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Posted - May 21 2014 : 09:56:23 AM
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quote: quote:Battery operated quasi-euro/asian looking generic sets with plastic snap together track that every museum gift shop or tourist railroad gift shop seems to sell. These things are always poorly made, don't last and don't follow any known prototypes. As such they do nothing to promote our hobby. That said, i did take one that was given to me as a gift and give it the treatment. It was a Hawthorn Village set themed for the movie It's A Wonderful Life. I repainted the entire set and applied decals for the Nickel Plate Road....don't ask. I will post pics later if pushed
Originally posted by metalsmith1Â -Â May 21 2014Â :Â 12:30:36 AM
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Consider this a PUSH! Show the pics
Originally posted by JNXT 7707Â -Â May 21 2014Â :Â 06:37:28 AM
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Yeah, man! Show us some pictures! This looks like it must've been a very odd set and I'd love to see the engine that you changed to Nickel Plate Road because it must look weird as heck.
-Steve
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Posted - May 21 2014 : 12:27:00 PM
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ugggggh.... fine, I will dig it out.quote: quote: quote:Battery operated quasi-euro/asian looking generic sets with plastic snap together track that every museum gift shop or tourist railroad gift shop seems to sell. These things are always poorly made, don't last and don't follow any known prototypes. As such they do nothing to promote our hobby. That said, i did take one that was given to me as a gift and give it the treatment. It was a Hawthorn Village set themed for the movie It's A Wonderful Life. I repainted the entire set and applied decals for the Nickel Plate Road....don't ask. I will post pics later if pushed
Originally posted by metalsmith1Â -Â May 21 2014Â :Â 12:30:36 AM
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Consider this a PUSH! Show the pics
Originally posted by JNXT 7707Â -Â May 21 2014Â :Â 06:37:28 AM
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Yeah, man! Show us some pictures! This looks like it must've been a very odd set and I'd love to see the engine that you changed to Nickel Plate Road because it must look weird as heck.
Originally posted by kovacste000Â -Â May 21 2014Â :Â 09:56:23 AM
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Posted - May 21 2014 : 3:29:30 PM
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quote:Battery operated quasi-euro/asian looking generic sets with plastic snap together track that every museum gift shop or tourist railroad gift shop seems to sell.
Originally posted by metalsmith1Â -Â May 21 2014Â :Â 12:30:36 AM
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LOL! I totally relate and can't wait to see this gem!
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Posted - May 21 2014 : 11:03:09 PM
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quote:
So I should just scrap my brass track collection?
Originally posted by microbusss - May 21 2014 : 12:38:17 AM
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I use brass track fairly successfully. It's tendency to corrode just requires a little more cleaning. You don't live in a very humid climate, so I wouldn't expect horror stories from brass track in your case.
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Posted - May 22 2014 : 01:08:45 AM
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quote:
I use brass track fairly successfully. It's tendency to corrode just requires a little more cleaning. You don't live in a very humid climate, so I wouldn't expect horror stories from brass track in your case.
Originally posted by scsshaggy - May 21 2014 : 11:03:09 PM
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ok well I don't want ANY of it
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Posted - May 22 2014 : 02:44:00 AM
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quote:ugggggh.... fine, I will dig it out.quote: quote: quote:Battery operated quasi-euro/asian looking generic sets with plastic snap together track that every museum gift shop or tourist railroad gift shop seems to sell. These things are always poorly made, don't last and don't follow any known prototypes. As such they do nothing to promote our hobby. That said, i did take one that was given to me as a gift and give it the treatment. It was a Hawthorn Village set themed for the movie It's A Wonderful Life. I repainted the entire set and applied decals for the Nickel Plate Road....don't ask. I will post pics later if pushed
Originally posted by metalsmith1Â -Â May 21 2014Â :Â 12:30:36 AM
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Consider this a PUSH! Show the pics
Originally posted by JNXT 7707Â -Â May 21 2014Â :Â 06:37:28 AM
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Yeah, man! Show us some pictures! This looks like it must've been a very odd set and I'd love to see the engine that you changed to Nickel Plate Road because it must look weird as heck.
Originally posted by kovacste000Â -Â May 21 2014Â :Â 09:56:23 AM
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Originally posted by metalsmith1Â -Â May 21 2014Â :Â 12:27:00 PM
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  Ask and you shall receive.
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Posted - May 22 2014 : 02:46:26 AM
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This is what I started with. Beige loco with red accents and cars with cast in color and press on sticker graphics.
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Posted - May 22 2014 : 02:49:32 AM
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Repainted the cars in better colors but for the life of me I don't know why I went with the same blue and yellow instead of Pullman Green.
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Posted - May 22 2014 : 02:52:11 AM
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Caboose is my favorite of the bunch. The decal set was for HO and is a little oversized for this set but I was pretty jazzed with the outcome.
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Posted - May 22 2014 : 02:55:01 AM
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Proving once and for all that there is some wiring crossed in my brain somewhere is the fact that I repainted and weathered the shiny black plastic track 
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Posted - May 22 2014 : 02:57:00 AM
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So here it is all boxed up and ready for next Christmas.
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Posted - May 22 2014 : 09:38:42 AM
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quote:So here it is all boxed up and ready for next Christmas.
Originally posted by metalsmith1Â -Â May 22 2014Â :Â 02:57:00 AM
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Good grief! That is one terrible set for such a good movie as I stated in another thread with this engine.
-Steve
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Posted - May 22 2014 : 12:44:47 PM
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Oh, but you should hear it run. I have heard coffee grinders that are more quietJust what you want on cold Christmas eve.
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Posted - May 23 2014 : 10:33:30 PM
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I dunno, I work at a Train shop repairing trains, from G down to N so far. Some are difficult to work on, others a breeze. I don't really hate any of them, some are better designed than others, and some you just take with a grain of wheat, er, salt when running them. Here's some things I "dislike" about certain makes of model trains....
Tyco - PT motors , long as you have parts, you can fix'em. But not the best. The MU-2 motors are a little better, but hard to work on being riveted together.
Bachmann - Pancake motors, split frame engines, really a pain to repair. And parts for them almost non-existant except recycled parts.
Marx HO - the Hustler engine shells are a BEAR to get off without breaking, and the little fiber board that holds the brushes in place get brittle and break with time.
AHM - the older 5-pole motors were pretty good, the later 3-pole plastic-encased really suck and are noisy.
IHC - hit or miss, haven't worked on many, older engines use the boxy slot-car type motors, not much power, and jerky movements sometimes.
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Posted - May 24 2014 : 5:13:32 PM
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Steve, for a battery operated toy train, that's not half bad. You've taken it from horrendous to halfway decent. The caboose quite good. At the very least it was a good painting exercise.
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Posted - May 24 2014 : 5:17:22 PM
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quote: quote:I'm gonna hate on brass track too. I just spend twenty minutes polishing a #6 right-hand switch with a bright boy and then I realized it wasn't worth it.
Originally posted by PRR 4800Â -Â May 19 2014Â :Â 11:32:42 PM
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So I should just scrap my brass track collection?
Originally posted by microbusss - May 21 2014 : 12:38:17 AM
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Nah, send it to me, I'll polish it and use it. :)
What I hate is the Lima 0-6-0 side tanker with the sidewinder motor. It runs okay, though fast, but the reason I don't like it is that Ebay sellers try to sell it as the Mantua which looks very similar. Which is how I got mine. :/
Edited by - Autobus Prime on May 24 2014 5:19:30 PM
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Posted - May 24 2014 : 7:04:05 PM
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quote: quote: quote:I'm gonna hate on brass track too. I just spend twenty minutes polishing a #6 right-hand switch with a bright boy and then I realized it wasn't worth it.
Originally posted by PRR 4800Â -Â May 19 2014Â :Â 11:32:42 PM
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So I should just scrap my brass track collection?
Originally posted by microbusss - May 21 2014 : 12:38:17 AM
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Nah, send it to me, I'll polish it and use it. :)
What I hate is the Lima 0-6-0 side tanker with the sidewinder motor. It runs okay, though fast, but the reason I don't like it is that Ebay sellers try to sell it as the Mantua which looks very similar. Which is how I got mine. :/
Originally posted by Autobus Prime - May 24 2014 : 5:17:22 PM
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That's pretty brutal if you ask me. I've actually seen these Lima 0-6-0s at train shows for $5 in good condition and with knuckle couplers. 
-Steve
"A lot of modellers out there who go to these train shows see broken HO stuff and go, 'This is useless' when, in reality, they can still be used for modeling whether it's as a prop on your layout or a cool project to make something old new again."
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Posted - May 24 2014 : 7:06:23 PM
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quote:Steve, for a battery operated toy train, that's not half bad. You've taken it from horrendous to halfway decent. The caboose quite good. At the very least it was a good painting exercise.
Originally posted by NickelPlate759Â -Â May 24 2014Â :Â 5:13:32 PM
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I have to agree, it does look much better than it did before you painted it.
-Steve
"A lot of modellers out there who go to these train shows see broken HO stuff and go, 'This is useless' when, in reality, they can still be used for modeling whether it's as a prop on your layout or a cool project to make something old new again."
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Posted - June 04 2014 : 12:53:52 PM
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quote:Lighted Bumpers: replace with LEDs
Good idea for this day and age but I didn't have access to LEDs back in 1976
Weight activated Grade Crossing Accessories: no arguement there Replace with light sensor crossing signals
Well thanks for agreeing with me
Tyco Trainset Power Packs: really? what causes that?
I don't know, I was a six year old at the time and I went though 3 of them within a year, my father decided to invest in a UPC Transformer with a manual circuit breaker which lasted for at least 10 years.
Woodland Scenic ballast: crush it smaller
I would love to see you try to crush walnut shell ballast! A better solution is to use real rock ballast made from crushed limestone.
All sellenoid operated switch machines: modernize it with better electronics
Well duh, but sellenoid switch machines are still being produced to this day.
Originally posted by microbusss - May 17 2014 : 8:58:13 PM
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Proudly keeping Tyco Pluggers out of landfills since 2016
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Posted - June 04 2014 : 1:26:40 PM
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quote: quote: quote: quote:I'm gonna hate on brass track too. I just spend twenty minutes polishing a #6 right-hand switch with a bright boy and then I realized it wasn't worth it.
Originally posted by PRR 4800Â -Â May 19 2014Â :Â 11:32:42 PM
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So I should just scrap my brass track collection?
Originally posted by microbusss - May 21 2014 : 12:38:17 AM
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Nah, send it to me, I'll polish it and use it. :)
What I hate is the Lima 0-6-0 side tanker with the sidewinder motor. It runs okay, though fast, but the reason I don't like it is that Ebay sellers try to sell it as the Mantua which looks very similar. Which is how I got mine. :/
Originally posted by Autobus Prime - May 24 2014 : 5:17:22 PM
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That's pretty brutal if you ask me. I've actually seen these Lima 0-6-0s at train shows for $5 in good condition and with knuckle couplers.
Originally posted by kovacste000Â -Â May 24 2014Â :Â 7:04:05 PM
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I only paid 5 plus shipping, so wasn't out too much, but still.
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 Posted - June 05 2014 : 11:13:45 PM
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quote: quote:I'm gonna hate on brass track too. I just spend twenty minutes polishing a #6 right-hand switch with a bright boy and then I realized it wasn't worth it.
Originally posted by PRR 4800Â -Â May 19 2014Â :Â 11:32:42 PM
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So I should just scrap my brass track collection?
Originally posted by microbusss - May 21 2014 : 12:38:17 AM
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Some clarification. I was going to hate on that one piece of brass track specifically - I thought it was an old shinohara until I cleaned it and found it was a busted brass turnout instead.
I've got some new hate too: Bachmann Gandy Dancer. Those miserable little turds barely run when they're new, and once you've tried to take one apart to use it to power something else, it's a lost cause trying to get the damn thing running at all ever again!  I'm gonna murder it, I swear!
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