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 Posted - October 06 2014 : 5:27:33 PM
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This is what happens when you have a F7A you're not sure what to do with and a spare F45 shell waiting for something to do.
It started life as an Athearn John Deere F7A, that wasn't running - was missing one wheel. Taking it apart, the axle gear was broke in half as well. Was a simple fix replacing it with a spare axle gear/wheel pair, and it runs smooth and quiet.
I have never seen an Athearn like this one though, with the can motor. This is production, not a remotor.
I haven't decided what to paint it yet, will probably go with the home JNXT road since it is such a fantasy bash, although I can see the possibility of a shop doing something like this.  as for that, I'm still wondering what to call it???
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Posted - October 06 2014 : 6:46:24 PM
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Jerry,
That is not as weird as what the AT&SF did with their F7s, but it is still weird. Looks cool.
How about a commuter locomotive scheme. It looks like something they would buy in Chicago, Boston, or New York. Put a set of commuter cars behind it.
Regards, John
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Posted - October 06 2014 : 8:22:37 PM
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AAAAAHH!!!
*dies*
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Posted - October 06 2014 : 8:40:20 PM
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| That motor looks like one found in an IHC GG1....
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Posted - October 06 2014 : 9:32:37 PM
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quote:AAAAAHH!!!
*dies*
Originally posted by PRR 4800 - October 06 2014 : 8:22:37 PM
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  Pretty cool, huh? 
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Posted - October 07 2014 : 08:33:52 AM
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In concept, this reminds me of the C&NW "Crandall Cab" E-8's. The C&NW got some E-8 B units from the Union Pacific and built boxy looking cabs onto them: http://www.american-rails.com/crandall-cabs.html
It's neat to see some freelance modeling going on in the Diesel world (HO and 1:1).
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 Posted - October 07 2014 : 09:53:21 AM
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| I sent you that JD loco! hehe
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Posted - October 07 2014 : 4:29:01 PM
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Sshaggy - yes the Crandall cabs did partly inspire my creation, plus I had always wondered if I could do it.
I love projects like this, creating something entirely different. And judging from photos I have seen of real railroad shops making 'oddballs', I figured why not? Entirely believable.
Have to admit I had a moment of hesitation before I made the first cut with the razor saw though.....
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Posted - October 07 2014 : 10:48:13 PM
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Looks a bit like an F40PH commuter loco. That's a Mabuchi motor, and I think they used them in their RTR line. They no doubt got the idea from IHC / Mehano, who used the same motors. They're quieter and draw less than Athearns blue box motors.
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Posted - October 07 2014 : 11:57:50 PM
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| MK built something sort of like this put of old F-45 carbodies.
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Posted - October 08 2014 : 12:38:43 AM
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quote:Looks a bit like an F40PH commuter loco.
Originally posted by NickelPlate759 - October 07 2014 : 10:48:13 PM
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 I would somewhat agree with that. Very interesting design choice.
-Steve
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Posted - October 08 2014 : 6:41:38 PM
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Very interesting project. I'm a fan of "ugly" locomotives, CF7's and Gensets are favorites of mine.
Can't wait to see more pictures.
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Posted - October 08 2014 : 7:30:13 PM
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quote:Very interesting project. I'm a fan of "ugly" locomotives, CF7's and Gensets are favorites of mine.
Can't wait to see more pictures.
Originally posted by ChessieRR - October 08 2014 : 6:41:38 PM
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I've always liked the "oddballs". This is what I think the CF7 should have looked like!
But with that in mind, it is in fact NOT a CF7. So I am wondering what to call it. CF7 stands for "Converted F7", which it is...but to call it that would be misleading. Maybe add a suffix letter, as in CF7J....or go at it from the other end, and call it a CF45....
These little details drive me up the wall
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Posted - October 09 2014 : 4:05:08 PM
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CF745... when you wake up at an odd time and are not sure if your glasses are dirty or that you actually wear glasses, it's blurry, it's early... you don't know (and it isn't the twilight zone 'cuz it's 7:45) but you see this loco pass before your eyes...
CF745... all you know is that it's yours... and it's about time, eh? C?
John
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Posted - October 09 2014 : 4:15:47 PM
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quote:CF745... when you wake up at an odd time and are not sure if your glasses are dirty or that you actually wear glasses, it's blurry, it's early... you don't know (and it isn't the twilight zone 'cuz it's 7:45) but you see this loco pass before your eyes...
CF745... all you know is that it's yours... and it's about time, eh? C?
John
Originally posted by zebrails - October 09 2014 : 4:05:08 PM
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Ahhhh....YES....
*wiping glasses*
I C!
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Posted - October 09 2014 : 5:06:19 PM
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| Yeah Jerry, I think I get as much fun thinkin' about paint schemes or this scheme or that scheme. I'm pretty much ignorant about diesels, all the different types, and details, but that does look like one of those nice models with a good drive train that could become a good backbone of a railroad. Keep the photos comin' of this project . . . even if does take you six months, hey?
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Posted - October 09 2014 : 5:42:49 PM
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It is fantastic to see this kitbash. The prototypes kitbash the daylights out of the real thing so I don't see why not do the same to the models?
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Posted - October 09 2014 : 7:00:50 PM
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OK Jerry,
The Morrison-Knudsen Boise Shops rebuilt this locomotive out of a surplus F7B unit. The original F45 engine was used in a rebuilt SD40-2 so they had a spare body. MK was building GP10s for Conrail and when your railroad name here needed a passenger engine and they cobbled together part of the leftover F45 car body and one of your railroad name here F7Bs into a passenger locomotive. This locomotive was built with the same rebuilt engines and electrical as the GP10s for Conrail, but had faster gearing and a HEP unit. The model was designated MK P10.
Regards, John *************
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Posted - October 09 2014 : 8:07:15 PM
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Also found in this forum...
Oddballs and upgrades: http://www.tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=13986
This link goes to some Alco... but there are other locomotives of other makes included.
You might just find a cousin of your idea locomotive... or reincarnate one already made.
John
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Posted - October 09 2014 : 8:13:39 PM
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It would be cool in Santa Fe's later freight scheme!
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Posted - October 09 2014 : 9:02:04 PM
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quote:OK Jerry,
The Morrison-Knudsen Boise Shops rebuilt this locomotive out of a surplus F7B unit. The original F45 engine was used in a rebuilt SD40-2 so they had a spare body. MK was building GP10s for Conrail and when your railroad name here needed a passenger engine and they cobbled together part of the leftover F45 car body and one of your railroad name here F7Bs into a passenger locomotive. This locomotive was built with the same rebuilt engines and electrical as the GP10s for Conrail, but had faster gearing and a HEP unit. The model was designated MK P10.
Regards, John *************
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Originally posted by JRG1951 - October 09 2014 : 7:00:50 PM
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John I'm liking this backstory, I can buy into it and it makes sense. 
Now comes the color scheme. I'm going to do it for the home road, but something more dynamic for this one. A 'statement' scheme for a new era of the JNXT....
I had a brainstorm last night, digging through a box of old decals. I think I'm going to give it a variation of the Santa Fe Warbonnet, although with the JNXT colors it would look more like Delaware and Hudson. Something classy to pull the JNXT Business Train Special
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Posted - October 14 2014 : 4:33:12 PM
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A little progress report, not a lot to show but I know where I'm going with it now. With a spare Athearn F7B shell with a Globe dummy chassis available, I decided it needed a B unit. I finished it yesterday.
The lead unit shell has been painted in the base JNXT blue, waiting to be masked for the war bonnet color scheme.
The chassis has been painted silver, replacement sideframes added for the two that were missing, and long-shank Kadee couplers installed.
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Posted - October 14 2014 : 5:46:53 PM
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Looking good, so far, JNXT.
-Steve
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Posted - October 14 2014 : 10:09:37 PM
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Jerry,
Cool, waiting on the final product.
John
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Posted - October 15 2014 : 12:56:34 PM
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Thanks guys - I put off the war bonnet masking several weeks the last time I did one. Then swore after I did it, it would be the last
I'll try to take a few pics in progress.
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Posted - November 06 2014 : 5:34:53 PM
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Fresh from the shop, JNXT MK P10, with its sister B unit. I still have to make a slight adjustment to the F45 pilots, as they are nearly scraping the rails - but a quick trim will cure that.
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Posted - November 06 2014 : 6:26:20 PM
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how about a big & fat JNX logo on the nose?
I provided the JD loco
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Posted - November 07 2014 : 12:46:13 AM
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| I'm digging your paintwork Jerry. And the clean number boards and cab. And the JNX "branding". What kind of work you got in mind for this fine looking (interior as well . . . looks like a powerful rig) locomotive to do?
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Posted - November 07 2014 : 06:42:21 AM
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quote:I'm digging your paintwork Jerry. And the clean number boards and cab. And the JNX "branding". What kind of work you got in mind for this fine looking (interior as well . . . looks like a powerful rig) locomotive to do?
Originally posted by Barry - November 07 2014 : 12:46:13 AM
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Thank you Barry - this AB set will be used on the Office Car Special, the railroad's flagship as you see currently on the Norfolk Southern, UP, KCS, CSX, etc. My layout is very loosely placed, timewise, and so I can have a reason now to pull a train of streamliners either set in the 60s or present day.
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Posted - November 07 2014 : 09:56:57 AM
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I love it! Nice paint! What do you use for masking? Those lines are nice and crisp and even!
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Posted - November 07 2014 : 12:01:15 PM
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| Looks great Jerry!
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Posted - November 07 2014 : 12:47:20 PM
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quote:I love it! Nice paint! What do you use for masking? Those lines are nice and crisp and even!
Tim
Originally posted by wildecoupe - November 07 2014 : 09:56:57 AM
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Thanks - the lines are straight because they are decals taken from a Microscale Santa Fe Warbonnet set. But yes, it does still require masking when painting the base colors. I spray the silver last because Testors silver does not take to being masked - the tape dulls the sheen when it is removed.
For the masking process (and this is taken from Microscale instructions) you make a photocopy of the decal sheet and use it as a template for the masking tape. It sounds complex and does require patience, but it's not all that hard in practice. The lines are not so crisp at this stage but thankfully the decal stripes cover them and you end up with a nice sharp line.
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Posted - November 07 2014 : 10:03:50 PM
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Jerry,
Thanks for the info! Hoping to get in to some custom paint myself soon.
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