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 Posted - January 29 2011 : 10:20:56 PM
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What year did Tyco stop making the trains in the USA. How do I know hat year my engine is?
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Posted - January 29 2011 : 10:36:33 PM
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| Post a pic and we will help you out. Do you know if it has a Power Torque motor or not. Was it part of a set, if so what one? Does it say Mantua-Tyco or just Tyco on the botom. Where does it say it was made? Are there railings and what are they made of? All of these things point to different years. Problem is that most likely you will get a range and not an exact year. Tyco often made items for several consecutive years.
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Posted - January 29 2011 : 11:37:24 PM
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Hi Christopher
First - Tyco stopped making trains in 1993. They actually started decreasing HO train items and accessories in the mid 80's. It is nearly impossible to identify the year a locomotive was made as Tyco did not stamp date codes on locomotives. A picture of your locomotive and picture of the motor can help narrow it down some. AS tkruger posted - if you have Mantua/Tyco on bottom - general time frame would be late 60's to 1973 approximatly -there are a few exceptions though. Tyco Hong Kong is from about 1974 to early -mid 80's. Late 80's into last year could be Yugoslavia stamped Tyco made by Mehano. -Post some clear pics
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Posted - January 31 2011 : 10:21:50 PM
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See this topic for some help IF you have the original box. There is an image missing from that post, maybe it will magically reappear.
http://www.tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=2497
Very informative regarding the "decoder ring".
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Posted - February 01 2011 : 2:07:04 PM
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The former Tyco facility in New Jersey manufactured product right up through the bitter end of both "Tyco trains" and "Mantua", but it's impossible to declare a hard, fast, and succinct rule as to what was made by/for whom and where and when. To wit:
- Most if not all of production pre-1968 was USA made by and for Tyco
- Some products (most of the tooling released after 1968) were made in Hong Kong exclusively
- Some legacy product tooling was cloned and shipped to Hong Kong; new production was sourced from both Hong Kong AND the USA; though perhaps not always concurrently.
- Some products were made "for Tyco" by the "New Mantua" when the Tyler family bought back the New Jersey facility and resurrected the Mantua name.
- At some point in the 80's Tyco ceased sourcing from the New Mantua, and even Hong Kong - and began outsourcing product from Mehano in Slovenia - sometimes with yet more cloned tooling.
And there are other nuances and vagaries to production. A picture is key, but is not guaranteed to provide an indisputable answer.
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Posted - February 01 2011 : 2:43:12 PM
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Trying to post pictures. What size do I make them?
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Posted - February 01 2011 : 3:20:26 PM
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quote:Trying to post pictures. What size do I make them?
Originally posted by Christopher - February 01 2011 : 2:43:12 PM
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I've posted up to 1000 x 800, but usually 800 x 600 is sufficient. I think if you go over 1280 x 1000 it may be too large for the system to tolerate, I've tried larger and they fail. So 1000 and under will usually load ok.
Jerry
" When life throws you bananas...it's easy to slip up"
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Posted - February 01 2011 : 3:21:09 PM
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| I've posted a lot of pictures, and I can't say I've ever paid attention to the size. I would say not to make them too big so that the page loads slow.
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Posted - February 01 2011 : 4:04:09 PM
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The engine
The Front Truck made of metal
The Rear Truck made of metal
The Motor
The weight marked Made in USA
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Posted - February 01 2011 : 4:08:45 PM
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| As you can see this is the first time fo me to post pictures. How do I get them to be smaller?
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Posted - February 01 2011 : 4:19:06 PM
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Christopher - check your camera settings - 640X480 is a good setting
Your train is a Mantua /Tyco. It has the MU motor. By the USA made stamp on bottom -It was made in NJ - approximate time frame for this would be mid -late 70's production is my guess
see spiderj76 for a better detailed description
Edited by - Brianstyco on February 01 2011 4:29:56 PM
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Posted - February 01 2011 : 4:20:36 PM
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That's the former "Tyco" F-unit, as remade and sold by the "New Mantua" sometime after 1978, in the USA. It was one of the assets the Tyler family bought back from Tyco, and the blankout on the weight covers the "by Tyco" text. New York Central was a new roadname in this release, never before available. The non-flush stirrups certify this is a reworked version of the classic Tyco shell. It also features the revised, serviceable version of the MU-2 motor: fastened together with screws instead of rivets, you'll be thankful if you run it much.
Tyco continued offering an F-unit of their own at the same time NewMantua's was available, but it was newly created and unique tooling. Once Tyco got that, Mantua used this version exclusively. Although for a brief period immediately before/during/after the sale, Tyco did buy some of the New Mantua F-units and sell them as "Deluxe Tycos". On the flipside, a lot of Mantua's rolling stock never did cover up the Tyco name embossing, unlike your loco above.
Confused yet? Welcome to the wonderfully twisted world of Tyco/Mantua & Friends.
More info on Tyco's F-units: http://goingincirclez.com/TycoTrains/Guide/7
Edited by - spiderj76 on February 01 2011 4:23:54 PM
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Posted - February 01 2011 : 4:28:21 PM
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| Thanks spiderj76 and Brianstyco great info to know. I will change my camera settings and post the three engines I picked up at the show in the eotw forum later today.
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Posted - February 01 2011 : 6:05:23 PM
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quote:As you can see this is the first time fo me to post pictures. How do I get them to be smaller?
Originally posted by Christopher - February 01 2011 : 4:08:45 PM
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Just an FYI, well a few things.
Don't let size be an issue if you're worrying about space. There is plenty of that and if everf approaches being an issue, I'll get more.
The forum will resize pics greater than 800 X 600 down to that size for initial display in the post. Those resized images can be clicked on to display in it's real native size.
The images you put up were very large and to cut down the time just to upload them you can change to 1024 x 768. That will cut the transfer time by a factor of 4 and provide a nice detailed picture if one wanted to "zoom" in on it. It will also cut the display time for the post by a factor of 4.
Speed and size aren't an issue for this server but individuals connections might be. That is becoming less and less the case these days.
It's up to you.
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Posted - February 01 2011 : 9:36:46 PM
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I has a 9.0MP digicam & I only use the 2M setting for every pic Which works fine in here
Tho I do have to upload pics using that camera icon several times before it takes 
So I get this if it won't take!
Active Server Pages error 'ASP 0113'
Script timed out
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The maximum amount of time for a script to execute was exceeded. You can change this limit by specifying a new value for the property Server.ScriptTimeout or by changing the value in the IIS administration tools.
 So I just load again 
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