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DaCheez
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I picked up a pair of these neat looking kitbashed B-units today. Anyone know what they're supposed to be?




...AND check out what they were riding on. It's like an Athearn on steroids!




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Hi Cheez. With a motor that big on a rubber band drive all your going to do is cut though the bands Carl
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Looks like a "Cab Control Car" Except it's an engine only....

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DaCheez
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The motor does seem like it's a little bit of overkill...just a little It does turn smoothly though.

Gareth, that seems like a possibility. If it helps any, the original owner seems to have had it setup as a three piece unit. One of these on either end with a B-unit in the center. I can tell that at one point the three units were all permanently connected electrically, as well as with a metal shaft in between each unit (probably to make them run closer together). Does that sound like anything?
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Hey Cheez:

A couple of the vintage AB units had "drive trains" if you'll pardon the pun!

The "A" unit had the power plant and passed power to the "B" unit via a drive shaft that then passedit to it's two trucks. Hobbytown I think did this and I think maybe Lindsay? While of the guys a wee bit older than me will know.

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VintageHO
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Hi Gareth and Cheez. They were Lindsay Units with Hobbytown Conversions. Here is a Lindsay FA / FB With The Hobbytown Conversion and A Pitman "O" Gauge 7 pole Motor. This setup can pull anything. Pulled 100 Freight cars with no problem. Here the one I made years ago. Carl








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I saw that Prototype in a Model Railroader mag form the 90's. One of the railroads modified a B unit to use as an engine for an inter city train. Basically on the outside it looked like they added lights and a cow catcher. The Prototype had stripes across the front. Hard to tell what color it was since it was a monochrome picture.
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Hey Carl:

Are those weights you've added to the "B" unit?

What material is the connecting shaft between the A&B units?

I got a Lindsay FA shell and truck recently. A ways from completing it, do you have spare parts?


Hey TK: I think I know the one you meant. It was a MID Train "B" unit that was sppecially built to split off and take the second half of a long distance train I think into Chicage or the like.... I've seen a pic somewhere but all my mags are packed for my move next week.

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Gareth. I added weight to the B unit since it had no motor it was lighter then the A unit and the A unit has a motor 3 times the size of the HO motor. So I added weight until it was the same weight as the A unit. It helps with the traction. The pair weighs close to 3 pounds.. The flex joint is not quite rubber but, a little like a fiber material. It is very tight on the shafts will not slip. But, is Flexible for turns.
Lindsay shells and Parts are most of the time have zinc rot.. They do not hold up well. Thats why Hobbytown trucks are used a lot. Hobbytown Parts can be hard to find. But, they do pop up on eBay... You have to keep a look out for them.. Carl

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Cheez, are those motors low RPM? They look like they're coreless. If you put some vinyl hair bands on those instead of rubber bands, they could run really well.
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Hey Carl:

My shell is a Lindsay. I have a complete Hobbytown FA in the original box. It's a pre-Flywheel unit. Don't know if I'll ever build it. Nice that it's there untouched. It's in the older larger box with the red carboard inserts and the small silver HT parts box.

Can never have too many Hobbytown's... particularly if you like metal.

Btw: I recently became aware that HT built a chassis and motor for the Mantua Shark and though I love the Mantua Shark the Chassis and motor aren't a patch on the HT one's. I have just a month or two ago acquired a HT F-7 Chassis and it has an F-3/7 shell which is either a Globe or Athearn. Do you happen to know if the HT "F" chassis is the same as the Shark one they made?

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DaCheez
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quote:
The "A" unit had the power plant and passed power to the "B" unit via a drive shaft that then passedit to it's two trucks. Hobbytown I think did this and I think maybe Lindsay? While of the guys a wee bit older than me will know.


Oh wow. I never knew you could get engines like that O_o. The shafts on my engines were just to hold them together (couplers.)

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Cheez, are those motors low RPM? They look like they're coreless. If you put some vinyl hair bands on those instead of rubber bands, they could run really well.


The motors actually run pretty fast, but they seemed smooth at low speeds as well. I don't think I'll use the rubber band drives though...I've never had good luck with them.

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