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 Posted - June 02 2010 : 11:45:49 AM
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hi guys have one of these by pfm,what i want to know is what were they like in reality,ie the real locomotive,good bad or indifferent i cannot find anything about it other than were run by nyc/cnj,ken
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Posted - June 02 2010 : 11:51:15 AM
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Hey Ken:
That appears to be a 4-6-4T "Baltic" used by the CNJ and the CNR (where it was called an X-10). I think Steamtown in the US has a CNR version. They were used in "Suburban" service as they didn't need to be turned during operation...
Hope that helps.
-Gareth
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Posted - June 02 2010 : 12:00:54 PM
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i know its a baltic tank by wheel arrangement but the box says h1-s class? so that is why i put it as that,but thanks for info,ken
as is this my obb 78 baltic
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Posted - June 02 2010 : 12:43:54 PM
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Ken:
Sorry I wasn't more helpful, thought it was a start to fill in some pieces of info. Try Steamtown in a search wit the 4-6-4 wheel arrangement, it's where I would go with this or CNJ 4-6-4 that kind of thing...
-Gareth
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Posted - June 02 2010 : 12:48:37 PM
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| hi gareth every little crumb of help is a good thing cheers ken
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Posted - June 02 2010 : 3:35:58 PM
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That's beauty-ous, Ken.  I wish I were around when they were in service on the CNJ, but most if the photos I've seen of CNJ steam have been Pacifics and Camelbacks.
Do you have it yet, or is that another one that's in transit?
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Posted - June 02 2010 : 3:59:31 PM
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Hi Ken. According to The Brown Book of Brass locomotives your engine CNJ H-1s was made in 1969 only 475 were made.
Here is a link for CNJ. Scroll down to #225 click on numbers to see pictures.
Hope this helps. Carl
http://www.northeast.railfan.net/cnj_steam1.html
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Posted - June 02 2010 : 10:37:54 PM
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Yes, that is a beautiful example of a Jersey Central Baltic suburban tanker.
Has a rather Canadian look to it with its enclosed cab and Elesco feedwater heater, doncha think?
That's because the prototypes were built by Montreal Locomotive Works. CNJ needed reliable suburban tankers, so it borrowed some CN ones for testing and evaluation, as CNJ management had heard that Canadian-built steam was especially reliable and weather resistant.
There are some differences between the CNJ engines and the CN ones - namely the firebox, which is a large Wooten design that is intended to burn anthracite coal.
The CN X-10-a class was originally built in 1910 for the Grand Trunk for use in Montreal suburban service. CN 49 was the last steam loco overhauled at Pointe Sainte-Charles shops in Montreal in 1959, and resides at Exporail at Delson-St-Constant.
CN 47, at Steamtown, was overhauled last in 1958 but due to a roundhouse fire in the '50s or early '60s, her maintenance records were lost. This became a problem when the loco went to the USA, as due to her exceptional condition she had been intended as an excursion loco. No maintenance records meant no boiler certification without a complete, documented, expensive overhaul. She operated as an excursion loco for one weekend in 1970 or 1971 (video record is available at Youtube) and then was consigned to display. Rumor has it that her internal condition is still very, very good, and she may be steamed with a minimum of effort - no word on how accurate that is especially when one considers that she's been mostly idle for 35 or 40 years.
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