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 Posted - April 11 2010 : 8:23:21 PM
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Here's an Athearn Hi-F:
It came from an ebay lot, very cheap. Someday I'm going to restore it. I love the paint, but the drive doesn't run well. It tends to derail easily too.
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Posted - April 11 2010 : 8:59:01 PM
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No it is most likely a GLOBE GP7. There are no horns on the short roof as Athearn has. Athearns version had a HI FI rubber band drive. Globe a geared drive. It is said that once Athearn aquired Globe that it released some of the globe units in Athern boxes before retooling the body for the hoorns on the roof.
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Posted - April 12 2010 : 12:11:55 AM
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It has the rubber band drive. Is it Athearn? I know what you mean about the horns...it's different from my Athearn Mopac Gp7.
Either way, I'm looking to use the shell on a more modern Athearn drive. I'm hoping to find one at the next local train show.
Edited by - burlington77 on April 12 2010 12:14:19 AM
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Posted - April 12 2010 : 07:16:37 AM
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my loco of the week has to be this penn-line decapod,runs real good,and weighs a ton,thanks to a good guy,it will be joining a few others on my attic layout,the pgw joint railway,which i have started putting ground work in place,still got loads to do before track is layed,ie flooring,but we are on the move here ken
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Posted - April 12 2010 : 07:57:28 AM
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quote:It has the rubber band drive. Is it Athearn? I know what you mean about the horns...it's different from my Athearn Mopac Gp7.
Either way, I'm looking to use the shell on a more modern Athearn drive. I'm hoping to find one at the next local train show.
Originally posted by burlington77Â -Â April 12 2010Â :Â 12:11:55 AM
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B 77 ; Do you know where the 2 horns mount on that locomotive. you don't need to drill a hole. There is a mounting place for them.
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Posted - April 13 2010 : 8:11:35 PM
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 Here is my life-like gp-38.My father got this in 1989 from Armstrong World Industries from where he worked.Only employees got these sets,also has a dummy,a flat car ,boxcar and cabbose. I have two of them as I have one put away and I run the other.It also says lancaster floor plant on it.
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Posted - April 13 2010 : 11:36:00 PM
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quote:
B 77 ; Do you know where the 2 horns mount on that locomotive. you don't need to drill a hole. There is a mounting place for them.
frank
Originally posted by toptrain - April 12 2010 : 07:57:28 AM
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Not sure what you mean...the ATSF has no horns or holes, but my other one (Athearn Mopac) has holes on the short hood. Seems like I saw a diagram once that had horns on the cab....but my memory could be fuzzy.
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Posted - April 14 2010 : 07:28:03 AM
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yes it does. GP7-9 runs longhood foward. enginees side, long hood, above door to cab. firemans side, short hood, also above the cab door. in your photo the firemans side is shown. in other words above the door onto the short hood walkway. a horn must be modified to mount there. you can use a horn that the mounting struts broke off of. remove the mounting struts. remove the claxton round part. alll you have left is a cone shape. the narrow part goes into the little round things center resess.
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Posted - April 14 2010 : 07:40:49 AM
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hi frank and b77,check out the link ken
http://www.hoseeker.org/assemblyexplosionAthearn/Assembly%20Explosion%20Athearn%20GP9.jpg
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Posted - April 14 2010 : 07:45:23 AM
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ken ; i seen that photo of your Wabash GP7-9. It has the horn mounted.
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Posted - April 14 2010 : 07:57:08 AM
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| thats right frank
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Posted - April 14 2010 : 8:39:46 PM
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Here's my Athearn made for Lionel rubber-band drive F unit.
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Posted - April 14 2010 : 9:14:49 PM
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I see now. The horns appear to have been broken off flush with the recess so it's hard to tell it's there. Here's what gave me the confusion:
I picked this up as-is, minus the handrails, and in VERY used condition. To my eye, the horns appear to be original and the holes look factory made. But I could be wrong.
Did ALL the Gp7/9's run long hood forward, or just MOST of them? I've been running them backward, even my Lionel 2328.
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Posted - April 14 2010 : 9:37:19 PM
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quote:
only have seen that done back east  Usually its for safety reasons Lotta crossings out there 
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Posted - April 14 2010 : 9:43:07 PM
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Here's the matching Loco to my CotW
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Posted - April 14 2010 : 11:23:35 PM
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quote:I see now. The horns appear to have been broken off flush with the recess so it's hard to tell it's there. Here's what gave me the confusion:
I picked this up as-is, minus the handrails, and in VERY used condition. To my eye, the horns appear to be original and the holes look factory made. But I could be wrong.
Did ALL the Gp7/9's run long hood forward, or just MOST of them? I've been running them backward, even my Lionel 2328.
Originally posted by burlington77Â -Â April 14 2010Â :Â 9:14:49 PM
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b 77 ; we were talking about the black ATSF body. It was a globe. You are showing me a Athearn. Athearn filled in the mounting holes, and put new mounting holes in the roof. That is the difference in the two bodies.
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Posted - April 14 2010 : 11:58:19 PM
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Okay, I see what you're saying. I got confused when you said Globe had a geared drive. This (ATSF) definitely has the rubber band drive, so I thought it was Athearn. Athearn, Globe, whatever it is doesnt' matter.
I see what you mean about the different horns. The link catfordken supplied looks just like my loco and shows where the horns go. I also meant to say that the ATSF was the one that had the horns broken off flush. The Mopac was just the only other thing I had to compare to. Either way, with only a slight modification to the shell for coupler width it will fit on a newer Athearn frame, like the one on the Mopac, which is what I intend to do as soon as I find another cheap one. Then it's just a matter of dressing it up, and I'll have a fine addition to the fleet.
Thanks for your help, even if we did get our signals crossed a bit. Hard to carry on a decent conversation on an internet forum.
Edited by - burlington77 on April 15 2010 12:03:17 AM
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Posted - April 15 2010 : 8:16:16 PM
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Here are 2 recent acquisitions. Tyco/Mantua PRR C430 and a AHM C425 Milwaukee.
The PRR is missing the lower part of the front Pilot. will use a Details West Part for the repair. Other than that they both run excellent.. Carl
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Posted - May 22 2010 : 6:48:05 PM
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Hey MB:
Dead on about the LH forward in the east thing. More population density.
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