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Having grown less amour-ed with the Rivarossi 4-6-0 due to the cracked wheel issue, I am casting about for a replacement 4-6-0.
I have noticed the Tyco version & wonder if it has any idiosyncrasies/peculiarities/endemic problems, such as cracking wheels or whatever??
Does a good example run acceptably well or do they all sound as if they are grinding coffee??
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Posted - January 31 2010 : 6:09:33 PM
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What about one of the Roundhouse models?
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Posted - January 31 2010 : 6:20:59 PM
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The only Tyco 4-6-0 I'm familiar with is the Old-Time version. In my experience, they are good locos, but here's the idiosyncracies:
1) They have a driver with a traction tire
2) Motor bearings NEED to stay lightly lubed
3) The tender truck to floor contact should be kept clean and polished for good contact, as with the tender's metal wheels.
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Posted - January 31 2010 : 6:29:23 PM
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quote:What about one of the Roundhouse models?
-Gareth
Originally posted by romcat-January 31 2010: 6:09:33 PM
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Indeed Gareth
There seem to be he Roundhouse, Varney & Bachmann Spectrum floating around.
The latter is a bit outside the current budget.
I am not sure about the Roundhouse - the couple of Climax I have grind along - so does this mean its a characteristic of the brand & the Roundhouse 4-6-0 kit needs a lot of reworking to be acceptable?? (& by acceptable I mean it runs without stuttering & sounding like a cement mixer & holds together mechanically over time)
Varney's run ?? - smooth, rough, need a lot of tweaking??
Any comments from HO 4-6-0 owners.
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Posted - January 31 2010 : 6:55:36 PM
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Hey Tanked:
I have a RH 2-8-0 that runs very sweetly. Not at all like the Climax which was based on their Box cab chassis and pretty flawed. Ray can tell you about that and their "Shay" which requires a lot of work, but AFAIK the 4-4-2/4-6-0/2-6-2/2-8-0 group are all similar and run well.
I'm sure happy with my consolie, and am getting parts to use a RH "SF" 2-6-2 Prairie boiler , on a RH 4-6-0 chassis to make a Canadian style "Ten Wheeler".
Hope that helps?
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Posted - January 31 2010 : 7:14:51 PM
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quote:Hey Tanked:
I have a RH 2-8-0 that runs very sweetly. Not at all like the Climax which was based on their Box cab chassis and pretty flawed. Ray can tell you about that and their "Shay" which requires a lot of work, but AFAIK the 4-4-2/4-6-0/2-6-2/2-8-0 group are all similar and run well.
I'm sure happy with my consolie, and am getting parts to use a RH "SF" 2-6-2 Prairie boiler , on a RH 4-6-0 chassis to make a Canadian style "Ten Wheeler".
Hope that helps?
-Gareth
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It does, thanks Gareth. Will certainly check out RH
Was the 2-8-0 built from a kit?
The Canadian Ten Wheeler sounds interesting.
Mantua - I thought I saw a Mantua 4-6-0 mentioned somewhere - do they exist & if so, are they more recent than the Tyco?
Different or a re-badge??
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Posted - January 31 2010 : 7:49:25 PM
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Hey tanked:
Pretty sure all those RH models were kits originally though routinely they show up on ebay built. Got mine at a show near Toronto with a Sangami I think it's called motor for $25 Love it. It's a Harriamn style...
There is a later Mantue 10 wheeler. Someone on here for sure has one and is better qualified to comment on it's running characteristics...
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Posted - February 01 2010 : 1:11:18 PM
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Tyco and Mantua both had a line of "old-timey" locomotives.
They included a 2-6-0, a 4-6-0, a 2-8-0, and a 4-8-0.
They are all based on a 4-6-0 Sierra Railway prototype. Ever seen Petticoat Junction? Or Back To The Future 3? That's the loco. It's a Baldwin catalog locomotive and the design was common around the turn of the 20th century.
Only problem is, it's actually OO scale (1/76) instead of HO scale (1/87). Therefore, it's somewhat oversized.
Of all the locomotives, the 4-6-0 and 2-8-0 configurations are the most realistic, with the 2-6-0 looking a little odd with such small drivers, and the 4-8-0 looking a little cramped for the arrangement.
They run about as well as any other Mantua/Tyco locomotives. They use the same motor and drivers as the Mikado IIRC.
Trivia - like other Mantua/Tycos, there's an easy way to tell which was which. Mantua locomotives have replaceable brass driver-axle bearings; Tycos do not.
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Posted - February 02 2010 : 2:32:05 PM
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quote:Hey tanked:
Pretty sure all those RH models were kits originally though routinely they show up on ebay built. Got mine at a show near Toronto with a Sangami I think it's called motor for $25 Love it. It's a Harriamn style...
There is a later Mantue 10 wheeler. Someone on here for sure has one and is better qualified to comment on it's running characteristics...
-Gareth
Originally posted by romcat-January 31 2010: 7:49:25 PM
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Gareth
From what I can tell so far there are 2 kit & built 'versions' of the 4-6-0 floating around:
The older Roundhouse version with the open 'slot car' type motor, & a more recent Athearn release, using MDC tooling, with the Sagami can motor.
Anyway, there seem to be more of the 'slot car' kits about & I wonder if anyone runs one & whether they run ok or you should hang out for the can motor version?
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Posted - October 07 2011 : 10:03:23 AM
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Tanked :
* You asked about the 4-6-0. I added the 4-8-0 and the 2-6-0 because thay are almost the same in construction. The 2-8-0 and 4-4-0 and all those cast and brass locos of old are made very differently. Also your concern of built in defects and running ability.
* About Tyco-Mantua 4-6-0s, 4-8-0s, and 2-6-0s !
* Outside of the boiler-front, and that nasty little rectangular top to the headlight, falling off when handled, and whenever they want to, I should add that kind of firebox top that sits on the motor always being not quite right all the time. They are very good.
* They are tuff little engines, that can be handled a little ruff without problems. Like any engine they dont drop to the floor to well, but better than most others. They also run just fine with normal care.
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