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Here's Mantua's limited edition Royal Blue
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Posted - January 17 2010 : 5:21:41 PM
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Wow, very nice engine!!!
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Posted - January 17 2010 : 6:18:44 PM
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quote:Wow, very nice engine!!!
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Thanks Mike & Gareth.
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Posted - January 17 2010 : 10:54:05 PM
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Pardon the Heresy but really nice NON-Black Steamer!
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Posted - January 18 2010 : 10:14:15 PM
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That's a nice loco!
Here's a Fleischmann that I don't know much about. I haven't really taken the time to look up anything. It's metal, and needs some work:
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Posted - January 19 2010 : 10:10:00 PM
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quote:That's a nice loco!
Here's a Fleischmann that I don't know much about. I haven't really taken the time to look up anything. It's metal, and needs some work:
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Hey burlington! that one is right up my alley! I have one of those, and in the same color too. It even runs.
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Posted - January 20 2010 : 11:28:57 PM
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| I can not tell you much about your loco other then it looks to be a "streched" Baldwin switcher. Any chance you could post a shot or two of the mechanism?
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Posted - January 21 2010 : 12:03:44 AM
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How about three? The front truck is only for electrical pickup. The motor is in the rear truck. The unit runs, but needs a push every now and then. It's another on my list of summer projects.
The wheels on the front trucks have gears, but they're not actually connected to anything. Can anyone explain the spring loaded silver "button" on the front truck? I don't know what it does.
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Posted - January 21 2010 : 12:27:48 AM
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2 posibilities come to mind:
1 the loco may have originally been designed to use a center rail for current and the button is a remnent of the pick-up.
2 it's a self destruction device!
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Posted - January 21 2010 : 12:34:59 AM
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| There's gotta be a simpler explanation. Both the Fleischmann's I've got have the same thing. It's just a simple, spring-loaded button.
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Posted - January 21 2010 : 12:41:07 AM
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| The button's location does limtit access during running. It is currently in an unpowered truck and seems to serve no maintanence function. It doesn't allow you to seperate or open anything. It isn't wired to anything nor does it operate anything. I stick with my second guess from above!!
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Posted - January 21 2010 : 12:50:51 AM
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| Actually, it may serve a function. Since it is designed to move up and down and is on the front truck, maybe it was meant to operate something on the track? The button would hit a trigger and activate some accesory? As an example, it might have functioned to trip the trigger on a grade crossing guard. The loco got to a certain point on the track and the silver button activated the switch to drop the guard arms. Then further down the track, the button activeted the switch to raise the guard arms back.
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Posted - January 22 2010 : 5:08:05 PM
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Originally posted by burlington77-January 21 2010: 12:03:44 AM
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If you think off DCC in this loco you need a special insulated motor shield, thats the same to all other older Fleischmann Locos. - Erich
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Posted - January 22 2010 : 11:56:14 PM
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| No dcc for me! I just need to get it running smoothly. It starts with a tap, then jerks and stalls. I noticed one broken pickup wiper, and it needs more deeper cleaning. I'll get it one of these days.
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Posted - January 23 2010 : 01:22:26 AM
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The pickup might have been to make it compatible with Marklin track, tho it's strange that it's not centered.
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Posted - January 23 2010 : 04:10:46 AM
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quote:The pickup might have been to make it compatible with Marklin track, tho it's strange that it's not centered.
Originally posted by NickelPlate759-January 23 2010: 01:22:26 AM
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The silver button is not a pickup, we call it "Pilzkontakt - translated: Mushroom contact". Its a trigger for for some (special) contacts between a Fleischmann track. - Erich
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Posted - January 23 2010 : 11:38:11 AM
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Fleischmann imported American stuff from the late Fifties to sometime in the late Sixties. They brought in a metal Alco FA which was not HO scale - they were somewhere between HO and OO scale. This engine was sold with streamlined passenger cars that were also over scale. So the switcher may also be oversize.
I've seen a lot of Fleischmann over the years and all the models ran but not very well. They had really simple mechanisms. I'm no Fleischmann expert but I would assume they used the same mechanism in a lot of their engines - just like Tyco.
I believe the company is still in business turning out european prototypes.
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Posted - January 23 2010 : 11:48:30 AM
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quote:Fleischmann imported American stuff from the late Fifties to sometime in the late Sixties. They brought in a metal Alco FA which was not HO scale - they were somewhere between HO and OO scale. This engine was sold with streamlined passenger cars that were also over scale. So the switcher may also be oversize.
I believe the company is still in business turning out european prototypes.
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The older Fleischmann Locos are 1/85 scale, they made it because they want their engines look
bigger than other brands! Now the produce in 1/87. Fleischmann was owned by Roco about 3 years ago. - Erich
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Posted - January 23 2010 : 12:25:06 PM
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From the Movember '57 MR...
...E and H being the hobby shop advertising it.
Inside back cover, same issue...
Thanks to Gareth for the mag...
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Posted - January 23 2010 : 2:27:25 PM
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SG:
I trust you found ther Hegge stuff in that mag, yes?
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Posted - January 23 2010 : 8:10:04 PM
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| Oh yes...I almost forgot that he did HO before he went into fine scale O. Loved the boxcab juicejack article...reminded me why I like old MRs so much.
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Posted - January 23 2010 : 8:19:22 PM
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Very Different kind of stuff isn't it. Look what you can build, NOT look what you can buy! How many guys who read this will even know what you mean by a "Juice Jack"?
I've got scans of the articles of building the two heavy Juice jacks from his Crooked Mountain Lines. I can email then to you? Still inspired by the CML.
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Posted - January 23 2010 : 10:11:51 PM
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I actually have both of those, I really enjoyed his laid back style, just built them to suit his fancy at the time. He was the inspiration for this one I built from old signs...
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Posted - January 23 2010 : 10:37:11 PM
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| Thanks to everyone who supplied information about the Fleischmann. I've also got the Mikado pictured in the ad above. It's one of my favorite locomotives. As for running, the diesel is very rough, but the Mikado is very smooth and solid. The only repair I had to do was a drop of glue to fix a slipping pinion gear. If you look at it, the Fleischmann drive is a lot like the PowerTorque...only mostly metal and much more solid.
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Posted - January 23 2010 : 10:52:39 PM
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Hey SG:
how attached are you to that little Juice jack? Does the "Pan" work? In Toronto here we have a group called "Traction in Action" and that would look great on the display layout we take to events and shows. Would you consider a trade?
Also can you take some detail shots for me with/without the shell?
Cheers,
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Posted - January 24 2010 : 12:48:57 AM
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Does the pan work, he asks... OooOoOOOoooOOoOooooooo, that hurts, that reeeeeeeally hurts, the thought that I, the Shay, would stoop so low as to build a juicer without working pans or poles...OOooOOOOOoooo, that someone would think such a thought about me is almost too much to bear...alas...sigh...groan...I am now but a shriveled dry husk on the freeway of life, my work, my tutelage, all for naught....O, the pain...the pain... 
Aye, 'tis me beloved's favorite loco, to part with it for less than a king's ransom would mean certain painful undoings to me person...she won't even let me paint it...
---but I will get you some shots of it.
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Posted - January 24 2010 : 07:43:24 AM
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I pour forth a living libation on your husketudeage, offering that I assumed it would but since it's not painted (clearly the spouses fault!) you had not as yet wired it for overhead opeartion.... or that on the layout it was designed to run on, it used a pickup shoe as well as pan.
Yeah I could offer you an Atlas-Kato surplus to need for me!? You could tell the Mrs. it went to a greater use, inspiring little kds and older kids at public events and train shows....
Where do you use the "jack" didn't realise you were into Traction though come to think of it I think saw you on the trolley section of the 2Guyz at one time. Do you remember Chris Walker from that forum? We became buddies thanks to the forum. He got me into Interurban. I'm a part of the same small club. It's for that dispaly layout I was looking...
Hey I know what I could offer you... an American GK E-60CF! Now there's a something interesting! Radius is too tight on the "TIA" (Traction in Action) to use it.... do you know what an E-60CF looks like?
http://www.railheadvideo.com/pix/modeling/bne60.htm
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Posted - January 24 2010 : 6:46:07 PM
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| I like those but I like my health even more...
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Posted - January 24 2010 : 6:50:43 PM
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Have to settle for pic I Guess.
I Have a 6 wheel MDT Chassis to use for a jack. I had a 1+C+1 Box cab in mind.
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Posted - January 24 2010 : 7:46:19 PM
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quote:Does the pan work, he asks... OooOoOOOoooOOoOooooooo, that hurts, that reeeeeeeally hurts, the thought that I, the Shay, would stoop so low as to build a juicer without working pans or poles...OOooOOOOOoooo, that someone would think such a thought about me is almost too much to bear...alas...sigh...groan...I am now but a shriveled dry husk on the freeway of life, my work, my tutelage, all for naught....O, the pain...the pain...
Originally posted by shaygetz-January 24 2010: 12:48:57 AM
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I think you've been possessed by the ghost of Jonathan Harris.
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Posted - January 24 2010 : 8:13:04 PM
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Nelson:
Any idea how old people will need to be to get that joke!!!???
I mean Moses in short pants, know what I'm saying!?
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Posted - January 24 2010 : 9:08:13 PM
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Oh the pain, the pain of it all... 
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Posted - January 24 2010 : 9:10:36 PM
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You guys are on a Groan-roll for sure!
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Posted - January 24 2010 : 9:18:35 PM
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Posted - January 25 2010 : 7:59:01 PM
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Hey SG:
What chassis under the Jack?
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Posted - January 25 2010 : 8:17:28 PM
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| It is a modified Walthers doodlebug undercarraige from the '60s...you know, the kind of kit that only people who know who Jonathan Harris is built...
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Posted - January 25 2010 : 8:21:42 PM
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"Jammy Git!"
So a DB would have had one power truck nder the front and a pullman coach style underthe rear, so OK where did the chassis come from and I assume you used a second power truck?
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Posted - January 25 2010 : 11:42:28 PM
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The chassis is original to the doodlebug, I just cut it shorter and moved the rear truck forward. The original motor was a open frame type, I had the Sagami can motor from an old Arbour Models 2-8-4 Kanawha kit...as you can see, it's one of the old spring belt drives.
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Posted - January 26 2010 : 12:14:00 AM
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Shaygetz, how does the spring belt drive perform? Someone told me they ran a little boingy (technical term), but I'm sure doubling up on them helps.
Do you happen to have any extra spring material? I'm looking to make one for an old Penn Line Midget.
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Posted - January 26 2010 : 08:37:52 AM
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| Mine is actually quite quiet and smooth...nothing like the Athearn rubber band drive. I don't have any spring though, this was a scrapped project I bought in a box lot in an estate sale.
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Posted - January 26 2010 : 5:18:29 PM
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Really neat loco Shaygetz. I also like the hustler and calf you did and is posted elsewhere. I didn't see this until well after I had posted something else. Excellent
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Posted - January 26 2010 : 6:09:12 PM
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SG:
Are the trucks on the Jack stock from a Walther's DB?
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Posted - January 26 2010 : 6:12:20 PM
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Thanks Alco.
Gareth, the trucks and drive are stock to the DB kit.
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Posted - January 26 2010 : 6:51:38 PM
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Hey SG:
So only one truck is powered correct? Do you remeber how you made the shell?
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Posted - January 26 2010 : 9:51:24 PM
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| Yes, one powered truck...the shell was a simple cut and paste affair, layering the styrene at the windows and poking rivets in with a knife point. The only hard part was the curve in the roof. I pre-curved it by wrapping it around a 1/2" dowel, then drenching it with Testor's solvent---well not quite, but I did use a lot, regluing several seams as they hardened. It's quite solid, almost like it's cast in one piece. The vents are scraps from an MDC/Roundhouse kit, the doors from an old coach kit.
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