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Erich
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Resinous old oil makes this motor stuck. This is my way to make it run.

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I use plastic compatible contact cleaner (90% alcohol will work as well) for motor service, and lubricate the bearings only. WD40 shouldn't be on the brushes & commutator. Even light electrically conductive oils will thicken up on the commutator, causing friction and trapping brush dust in the commutator gaps, and WD40 is fairly thick stuff.
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I only use WD 40 if the motor does not turn. In this case it stucks so hard that I could not turn it by hand. so i use it only to get it spin free. after that I clean the motor from the surplus oil and lubricate it with a special one in the future. but lubricating was not the thing, it was the drill! - Erich
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The drill was different. I thought for a minute you were going to spin the motor and use it as a generator!

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If you clean it out afterward, it's not a problem. I'm surprised the oil was that stiff, but applying a small amount of penetrating oil to the bearings and letting it go to work should free it up as well.

Nice to see you got it running, though. What brand is it? I've never seen a double-motored unit like that, particularly a smaller loco.

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The drill was different. I thought for a minute you were going to spin the motor and use it as a generator!

Originally posted by MM 1498 - August 30 2009 : 6:22:54 PM



Then use the motor output to power the drill instead of the battery pack.


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Hi Nelson!

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What brand is it? I've never seen a double-motored unit like that, particularly a smaller loco.

Originally posted by NickelPlate759-August 31 2009: 01:59:56 AM

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This is a "Kleinbahn" (means: "smal train") made in Austria. my grandfather bought it in the early sixties. all wheels driven and heavy with the extra weight in the middle. It has the old Kleinbahn motors, now they use mabuchi. I postet pics of it in Toptrains Electrolocomotive topic.
here is the link of the Kleinbahn Museum:http://members.a1.net/bahnmuseum/eisenbah.htm

But it shows not only Kleinbahn, Liliput and others also there.

Sorry, only german text and pics not so good. - Erich
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Wow, Eric, those are some heavy duty pancake motors! I can see why it took a drill to get them moving. They look more like they were built for S scale than HO.

Must be one heckuva puller with that zinc ingot in the center.

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