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 Posted - March 21 2009 : 11:21:21 PM
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Been a little while, so this week I've got two:
This car is marked Tempo. I've seen later versions with integrated side grabs, plastic brakwheel stem, and one-piece dome/platform/ladder casting... but this is a first for the older version for me.
It's a nice car, lots of pieces. The most interesting ones are the separate strap-downs that in real life would have fastened the cylindrical tank to the flat frame. Seems out of place on a modernized (round end) tank though.
Anyone know who actually sold this?
Finally:
This one is interesting! It's the same 50' "modern boxcar/reefer" made by Pemco, then used by Tyco, later sold by Model Power & IHC.
But I'd never seen or heard of the BAR paintscheme on it. And the open stirrups make this an early run... they were filled by the mid-80's when Tyco began using them.
So again I ask: whodunnit?
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Posted - March 22 2009 : 03:20:47 AM
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Hello,
the brand "Tempo" was used in the 60's from Mehanotehnika in Yugoslavia. In the US they have been sold though AHM. Heres a link to a 1960's Tempo Catalog:
http://www.modellbahnarchiv.net/Modelle/Jugoslawien/Tempo/catalog.shtml?Java
No Idea about the B&A Reefer.
Martin
http://mmiwakoh.de/Eigene%20Webs/lima-modellbahn/index.htm
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Posted - March 22 2009 : 10:05:21 AM
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| I like that freon car, being EPA certified in refrigerant handling, I can tell you it's been awhile since you could buy it by the carload.
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Posted - March 22 2009 : 3:15:23 PM
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The Freon Tank Car was sold for some time by AHM as their Chemical Tank Car...
http://tycotrain.tripod.com/ahmhoscaletrainscollectorsresource/id49.html
I would say Model Power on the insulated 50' BAR example. And yes it is the same tooling as the late TYCO BN Box Car examples in '90s train sets. I'm not certain, but believe Model Power may have released this car first in the U.S. in the late '70s/early '80s.
Tony Cook
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Posted - March 22 2009 : 8:25:21 PM
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Where's everyone else's?...
Should have guessed that tanker was AHM. It looked typical of other offerings of theirs, but that *particular* tanker style I hadn't seen from them before. I shoulda double-checked Tony's AHM site! 
I would really like to know more about that 50' reefer. Like the Bachmann cylindrical, it's one of my faves by anyone in HO. But its chassis is a DIRECT ripoff/clone of Tyco's 50' boxcar. As such, I always thought Pemco made or got first use of it? I haven't paid much attention to Model Power freight cars but I might have to start.
Shaygetz, there's another DuPont Freon tanker style. I'll have to get pics later. They're some of my first "serious" purchases when I finally discovered real hobby shops.
Edited by - GoingInCirclez on March 22 2009 11:34:37 PM
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Posted - March 22 2009 : 10:32:31 PM
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Got you covered, Tony...
...from a nice box lot I picked up at the flea market, a Life-Like offering...
...I like the separate grabs and flush mount windows.
Edited by - shaygetz on March 22 2009 10:33:10 PM
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Posted - March 22 2009 : 11:32:26 PM
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Oooh nice find on that caboose! Did you try to open the doors? 
Here's the more common Freon car:
Back in the day, I tried to modify the car# for the one on the right. Shoulda just changed the 8 to the 3 but left the 0 there. This car also exists in green but I seem to have trouble catching that one.
Actually Shaygetz, I'm glad you have experience with refrigerants! Because from the day I bought these, I have always wondered: That model is supposedly a "Heated" tank car - note the fuel tanks and such on the frame. So... would it ever make sense to heat Freon? There is also a ThermICE Liquid Nitrogen car in this series! (I have that one too... imagine how cool a train wreck with that one would be  )
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Posted - March 23 2009 : 12:22:43 AM
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Doors don't open that I know, unless I'm doing something wrong...
Those are the cars I'm familiar with. Don't know that you'd wanna heat freon, it boils at over 400+ degrees BELOW zero...
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Posted - March 23 2009 : 12:52:28 PM
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| O.O caboose has 666 on it twice I believe UP had a GP with that number on it
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Posted - March 23 2009 : 6:48:25 PM
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quote:O.O caboose has 666 on it twice I believe UP had a GP with that number on it
Originally posted by microbusss-March 23 2009: 12:52:28 PM
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Only a scary number if you're on the wrong side of the Cross...
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Posted - March 23 2009 : 7:50:51 PM
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This is a Tyco Burlington caboose I bought a few weeks ago. One of the sides was covered in brown stuff...I don't know what it was, and I don't think I want to know Most of it did come off though, so I guess for a buck it wasn't a bad deal
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Posted - March 23 2009 : 9:32:26 PM
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quote:Doors don't open that I know, unless I'm doing something wrong...
Originally posted by shaygetz-March 23 2009: 12:22:43 AM
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Looks like a Proto2000 caboose. The doors should open inward if you push them. At least, they do on my example and others I've seen. Maybe not all of them do...
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Posted - March 23 2009 : 9:48:03 PM
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Posted - March 23 2009 : 10:52:27 PM
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quote:
Looks like a Proto2000 caboose. The doors should open inward if you push them. At least, they do on my example and others I've seen. Maybe not all of them do...
Originally posted by GoingInCirclez-March 23 2009: 9:32:26 PM
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It's a P1k which probably makes the difference, can only open this one with an Xacto knife
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Posted - March 24 2009 : 12:30:00 PM
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well I is sorta but so want to do that UP GP 666 tho I read in Railfan & Railroad number was changed cause of the religious idiots hated seeing that loco go thru their towns shut up! its JUST a number 
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Posted - March 24 2009 : 10:46:37 PM
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Originally posted by taycotrains-March 23 2009: 9:48:03 PM
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Wow, that one didn't change at all even through the brownbox era did it? And that even looks to be from the "good", first half of the redbox era.
The Streamline cabeese are so odd. They changed so many times in so many stupid little ways, it's astounding. Yet the graphics remained the same quite often. You can also tell which ones were formerly bobbers... if the graphics don't span past between the windows, as on your UP example.
I have two color and one roadnumber variant but that one is otherwise the same.
Nice car.
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