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 Posted - November 01 2006 : 10:37:40 AM
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I just found this on a shelf in my bedroom. I think my brother bought it used a few years ago at a train show. Does anyone know who makes it or what it's supposed to do?
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Posted - November 01 2006 : 10:47:41 AM
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it is a lineside stop signal (home) commonly found on british railways,in the position you have it set,move the lever it should show green for clear, not sure if found in other countries not seen this make before but will check ken
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Posted - November 01 2006 : 1:10:59 PM
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It's called a Semaphore in the U.S.
It was common outside of passenger/freight stations.
BTW, Tyco made 2 of these, LH/RH, built into a switch, on a blistercard.
Fully operational.
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Posted - November 01 2006 : 4:19:28 PM
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I know it's a trackside signal, but has anyone ever seen one like this? It looks like it is missing some pieces and there is a little hole at the side, possibly to run a wire through. My question is who makes it and what was it supposed to do when it was new?
-cheez
P.S. yes the little lever moves the signal up and down
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Posted - November 01 2006 : 4:58:23 PM
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Too add to ThOR's comments, and answer your question:
The only thing that seems "missing" to me, is the typical Amercianization of lights on the semaphore. There was usually an arc of colored lenses (green - yellow - red) at the pivot end of the boom. A lantern (and later, electric light) was at the top of the pole. As the boom would swing, the corresponding lens would be in front of the light, to match the signal.
Pretty important stuff for nighttime ops.
In a nutshell: Red (and boom position of crosswise) means to stop (track ahead is occupied); yellow (angled boom in the US) means proceed slowly / with caution (be prepared to stop if necessary); green (vertical boom) means proceed as normal.
Combined with a track switch / turnout, it could be used to indicate the position of the switch (straight or divergent).
I'm sure there were semaphores in the US without lights (indeed, there is likely a real prototype for almost any feasible signal you can imagine), but they're pretty uncommon here. I also believe that most semaphores across the pond have lights as well (alhtough maybe just red and green)... but I could be wrong there.
EDIT - well oops, now I see a red dot that is probably supposed to be the light. Can't see the green too well.
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Posted - November 01 2006 : 5:02:35 PM
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Links about semaphores:
http://matt.zont.org/signals/sgnltabl.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railway_signal
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Posted - November 01 2006 : 5:08:28 PM
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| yes goingincirclez,but he wants to know who made his one ie triang,hornby etc,ken
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Posted - November 01 2006 : 5:11:30 PM
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Well he also asked what it was supposed to do.
As for who made it - I have no idea, but the wood base looks very nice and might be the best clue. It also most definitely looks like a British signal to me. But I have never had any euro-nameplate gear myself (outside of the odd Mehano item) so yes, I'm afraid I'm useless to you. Sorry.
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Posted - November 01 2006 : 5:18:17 PM
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goingincirclez no information is useless,i have learned you call them semaphores,i have lived in uk all my life apart from a stint in canada,germany,aden cyprus,which takes up 5 years out of nearly 60,and have never seen one like it,but if it was uk made i will find it ken
here you are triang hornby r400 signal control set over the set shown sells for about $50/60
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Posted - November 01 2006 : 5:31:28 PM
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Ken,
maybe this is our "eureka!" moment...:
Now the colors are off (maybe just on the backside of the arm there)... but that looks pretty doggone close to Eric's signal to me.
The pic is from the Wikipedia article I linked to, and says that's a British Railways signal.
Hope that helps...
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Posted - November 01 2006 : 5:33:10 PM
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hi goingincirclex check my reply before yours and yes its our eureka ken
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 Posted - November 01 2006 : 5:34:33 PM
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| Yeah... I did... we were 0:00.01 seconds apart from the time you edited to add the pic vs me posting my find.
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Posted - November 01 2006 : 5:37:21 PM
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| milli seconds apart yet i cant shake your hand,ken
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Posted - November 01 2006 : 5:54:40 PM
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| LOL yeah... how about that. [}:)] I suppose I could ship ya a brew, 'specially since you like 'em warm over there.
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Posted - November 01 2006 : 5:59:17 PM
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| warm beer yuk,the colder the better,if you had said flat i would agree,so as its poured its flat,thats to make you drink quicker and buy more,ken
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Posted - November 01 2006 : 7:26:23 PM
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I knew what they did in real life...now I know what this one is for. Sorry about the picture bein a little dark, but in light the green and red dots on the arm show up great. So I need some special switches eh?? I doubt I'll find the right ones but this piece still looks pretty nice. I have just one more question though...is there supposed to be something in the middle where there are two holes in the base?
-cheez
P.S. I did know what they did in real life...i used to watch Thomas the Tank Engine
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Posted - November 01 2006 : 7:37:26 PM
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| would have thought some wiring to track as when you moved it to stop postion via isolating track it stopped the train?ken
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Posted - November 01 2006 : 7:38:42 PM
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It's very likely that there was originaly wiring, as there is a small hole on one side of the base.
-cheez
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Posted - November 02 2006 : 10:59:42 AM
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Ken - Hmm... is that really why it's served flat? I mean I'm sure it's just a traditional / acquired taste at this point, but I wonder if that's how it got started. Of course going way back, there was no way to really keep it from going flat. We 'mericans are spoiled, you know.
I do love me some Guiness though, and that's about as flat as it gets straight from a bottle [}:)]
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Posted - November 02 2006 : 11:16:39 AM
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| hi goingincirclez,mild beer which not many people drink these days is flat and warm,i drink lager,which is served very cold,and like you i do like guiness but serve cold ken
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