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I had it with my childhood train set and obviously had a lot of fantastic train wrecks with it ...
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 Posted - February 25 2008 : 05:41:26 AM
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hi ho,i believe the americans call this a drovers caboose,railway staff in bay window section,and drovers in the freight section,a few were converted to banana messenger cabooses in the 50s,i am sure someone will confirm,ken
ps picture is one of the many types of drovers cabooses
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Posted - February 25 2008 : 1:34:37 PM
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What does the bottom look like? The at may help ID the maker I am guessing late Varney/early L/L or maybe Marx.
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Posted - February 25 2008 : 5:08:33 PM
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I like that photo Ken.
That's a nice example.
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Posted - February 26 2008 : 12:32:41 AM
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quote:What does the bottom look like? The at may help ID the maker I am guessing late Varney/early L/L or maybe Marx.
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I didn't see any markings on the bottom ...
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Posted - February 26 2008 : 12:42:10 AM
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That's interesting.
Not Marx, Not Varney or L/L.
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Posted - February 26 2008 : 03:50:04 AM
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| Looks kinda like Athearn underframe construction.
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Posted - February 26 2008 : 04:19:02 AM
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| Looks like Athearn--but i am going to lean toward MDC as they are the only ones to use a screw mount coupler. Athearn uses a clip for the coupler pocket. Early MDC cars would have had this weight underneath
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Posted - February 26 2008 : 05:05:12 AM
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Hope this link works.
http://cgi.ebay.es/WALTHERS-Work-Train-Set-2-MOW-Santa-Fe-932932-NEW_W0QQitemZ300194253056QQihZ020QQcategoryZ484QQcmdZViewItem
According to this it is a Walthers.
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Posted - February 26 2008 : 06:06:16 AM
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I don't think this is a drovers caboose. Firstly, there are no windows in the presumed passenger section. Also, bay window cars are a later design.
It looks like a caboose of some kind, although I don't know what it's called, or what was hauled in the boxcar end.
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Posted - February 26 2008 : 07:07:15 AM
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hi roy,cannot disagree,but a lot of drovers cars had windows in rear removed,and converted to banana messengers? in fifties,there only seems to be a little bit of info on drovers cars,and have not seen any under preservation,due to the many uses they were put to in the end of their lives,maintainance of way being another,seated drovers cars were finished by the end of world war 2,if anyone knows of any more info regarding caboose oddities,please point me in that direction ken
ps bay window cabooses were first used on the akron,canton and youngstown railway in 1923?
pps in the uk bay window guards vans are known as duckets
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Posted - February 26 2008 : 11:28:28 AM
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quote:| I had it with my childhood train set Originally posted by HOScale Model Railroader - February 25 2008 : 12:08:03 AM
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About what year would that have been?
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Posted - February 26 2008 : 1:37:05 PM
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MONON called those rider cabooses...other roads used other names....looked like a marx to me too....underframe doesn't look familiar
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Posted - February 26 2008 : 1:38:06 PM
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quote:| ...a lot of drovers cars had windows in rear removed,and converted to banana messengers... |
Ken,
I don't know about the window removal, but according to Illinois Central records, their drovers cabooses were simply redesignated banana messengers. Perhaps, this was because the actual agents rode in the passenger section(which, presumably, had windows.)
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Posted - February 26 2008 : 2:53:24 PM
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| hi roy,i have scanned internet for info plus reference books,drovers cars etc,seem to be very rare on the ground,regarding info,and each company did their own thing depending on their needs,so will bow to fact you are nearer the real things than me,just hope that that info supplied to ho was helpful rather than misleading ken
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Posted - February 26 2008 : 4:03:45 PM
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| Good contributions there, Ken! Hopefully, the mysteries about this interesting car will be answered.
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Posted - February 26 2008 : 5:21:49 PM
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in my travel around the web i find some weird things check this out,advanced or what,ken
/tyco/forum/uploaded/catfordken/odmeig03.jpg
answer here
http://www.catskillarchive.com/rrextra/odmeig.Html
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Posted - March 24 2008 : 01:56:15 AM
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After a lot of checking around, the car closely matches the combination caboose/boxcar from the Walthers Work Train #2 Kits. The kits are no longer available, but what's funny is that Walthers didn't seem to offer a Great Northern version ...
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Posted - March 24 2008 : 08:12:06 AM
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it seems that great northern made a lot of one offs,heres one i found ken
X-181 was a "one-of-a-kind" caboose. It was originally built in April 1953 by GN's Waite Park shops as X-100. It was renumbered to X-181 in 1966. It spent most of it's life near and around St. Cloud, MN and later GN's Hutchinson branch, pulled by an equally unique NW-5 locomotive. Photo taken in Devil's Lake, ND alongside a bar on August 11, 1997
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Posted - March 24 2008 : 09:39:41 AM
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I believe this car is a TRU SCALE model (latter sold to TRAIN MINIATURE I Believe, and latter acqyuired butWalthers. The progrenitor of this series was actualy Ayres if I reall correctly - that was a long time ago.
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Posted - March 24 2008 : 09:40:29 AM
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I believe this car is a TRU SCALE model (latter sold to TRAIN MINIATURE I Believe, and latter acqyuired butWalthers. The progrenitor of this series was actualy Ayres if I reall correctly - that was a long time ago.
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Posted - March 24 2008 : 10:19:37 PM
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I would 2nd MikeyChris' information. I could guess "Ye Ol' Huff & Puff" brand.
Beyond that, the Missouri Pacific had combine cabooses having the Bay-Window and hi-Cupola types. The CN had "Combooses" resembling a baggage car at one end and caboose cupola on the opposite end.
It is also true that the railroads who had the "Drovers Cabooses" had horse and rider accommodation's, and very well in style, sometimes in better conditions and amenities than a regular caboose or pristine Pullman.
You may know already the the "Drovers Caboose" name came about when horses or cattle were shipped across the states and provinces, stopping every hour to feed and water the animals. "Drovers" are the people who "drove" the cattle.
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Posted - July 12 2008 : 11:47:09 PM
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Just looking through some older topics and thought I would comment.
http://www.hoseeker.org/truscale/truscalecatalog1961pg08.jpg
I will put a vote in on a truscale model that was decaled.
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