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Posted - October 08 2006 : 12:05:53 AM
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Visited my favorite used dealer today. After helping him sort and ID a crate's worth of old He-Man, Transformers, Hot Wheels and other assorted toys, I set my noteworthy train finds on the table. To my surprise, he rang them up and tossed in a whole box of salvageable HO, PLUS an unbuilt Athearn O wood-and-metal kit I inquired about, all for a Jackson.
In the box of "salvageables", were these:

Tyco up top, Lima on the bottom. I've never come across a Lima car before and I LOOOOVE those containers! (MagAc- right as always, I will have to look for more of these!)
So.... notice anything interesting about them?
Fonts aside, it cracks me up that two vedors would release the SAME car number, decoration, layout, and data on a "common stock" item.
So who copied who?
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Posted - October 08 2006 : 11:09:48 AM
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I don't have that Lima piece, but while looking I found somethin else interesting. Its a bachmann flatbed with logs and its exactly the same as the Tyco version, except for the load. 
Did bachmann buy some of tycos stuff or is this just a coincidence??
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Posted - October 08 2006 : 1:49:53 PM
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The "sharing" (re-releasing, stealing, whatever your preference) of tooling and patterns is age-old in toy-making. I've written in other forums about HOTCO, OK, Crown and the way their Hong-Kong produced items in the 1960s were dead-rip-offs of American Athearn offerings. Tyco's tooling for the flat ended up on the Asian rim and you're seeing the "benefit" of that tooling enjoyed by other companies. Glad you found some Lima and are spurred-on to get more: they're excellent products, found with some regularity in Canada (in both european and North-American coupler styles--making your task of making transition cars that much easier.) MagAc
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