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Just as it sounds, I am restoring this old tyco Plymouth switcher (It's the Transformers one, with the radar dish, but without stickers) And it was one of my first locos that I got at my first train show way back when. My dad really likes it because of the radar dish  so I decided to pull it out of my 'shops' and try to restore it. I've fully cleaned it, but obviously, the carbon brushes are missing.  No wonder it never ran before. Does anybody have replacements or know where I can get some similar carbon circles to fit?
Also, are those two wires to the pickups on the right spots? It doesn't look like there should be two wires on one joint. I think there should be one on each, leading to the carbon brushes.
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Posted - October 24 2019 : 6:08:13 PM
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You're 100% right - It should definitely be one wire soldered to each contact....not sure who did that, but that's another reason why it will not run.
As far as the brushes go, I think there are replacement brushes for sale on Ebay. (Upon tearing down one of my PT C430 motors, it had 2 copper brushes and 2 small copper springs that went into those holes) I do, however, have quite a few extinct Tyco PT motors that I might be able to extract brushes from, if someone else here can verify that any PT brushes are compatible with a Plymouth Switcher (as I don't know for sure personally, but would assume so.)
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Posted - October 24 2019 : 6:14:02 PM
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quote:You're 100% right - It should definitely be one wire soldered to each contact....not sure who did that, but that's another reason why it will not run.
As far as the brushes go, I think there are replacement brushes for sale on Ebay. (Upon tearing down one of my PT C430 motors, it had 2 copper brushes and 2 small copper springs that went into those holes) I do, however, have quite a few extinct Tyco PT motors that I might be able to extract brushes from, if someone else here can verify that any PT brushes are compatible with a Plymouth Switcher (as I don't know for sure personally, but would assume so.)
Originally posted by RP model railroads - October 24 2019 : 6:08:13 PM
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Found another thread that talks about this, would these work?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AURORA-MODEL-MOTORING-TUFF-ONES-WILD-ONES-SILVER-PLATED-COMMUTATOR-BRUSHES-NOS/123744013202?hash=item1ccfb7cb92:g:1xQAAOSwHMJYLheO
Thanks for the assistance!
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Posted - October 24 2019 : 6:18:06 PM
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quote: quote:You're 100% right - It should definitely be one wire soldered to each contact....not sure who did that, but that's another reason why it will not run.
As far as the brushes go, I think there are replacement brushes for sale on Ebay. (Upon tearing down one of my PT C430 motors, it had 2 copper brushes and 2 small copper springs that went into those holes) I do, however, have quite a few extinct Tyco PT motors that I might be able to extract brushes from, if someone else here can verify that any PT brushes are compatible with a Plymouth Switcher (as I don't know for sure personally, but would assume so.)
Originally posted by RP model railroads - October 24 2019 : 6:08:13 PM
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Oh, so I am also missing the springs as well?
Darn old owner, who knows what happened!
Found another thread that talks about this, would these work?
https://www.ebay.com/itm/AURORA-MODEL-MOTORING-TUFF-ONES-WILD-ONES-SILVER-PLATED-COMMUTATOR-BRUSHES-NOS/123744013202?hash=item1ccfb7cb92:g:1xQAAOSwHMJYLheO
Thanks for the assistance!
Originally posted by BlaxlandAlex3Â -Â October 24 2019Â :Â 6:14:02 PM
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Posted - October 24 2019 : 7:22:24 PM
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It may be more trouble than it is worth to fix that old Power Torque mechanism.
I would recommend finding a Plymouth switcher with a working MU-2 mechanism
and simply do a shell transplant. Good luck!
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Posted - October 25 2019 : 5:20:19 PM
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quote: It may be more trouble than it is worth to fix that old Power Torque mechanism.
I would recommend finding a Plymouth switcher with a working MU-2 mechanism
and simply do a shell transplant. Good luck!
Originally posted by Srenchin - October 24 2019 : 7:22:24 PM
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Yeah, Srenchin is right there. Say you replace the brushes and springs, and then the PT pinion gear pops off....that would be quite irritating, to say the least, after having put in so much work. But, it's up to you - if you want a more reliable Tyco Transformers Plymouth switcher (go with an MU-2 motor chassis,) or an 100% accurate one (restore the PT.)
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Posted - October 25 2019 : 6:35:45 PM
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| I see your point, but Its not that important to me that I would buy a whole new motor to transplant, unless I found one at a train show
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Posted - October 25 2019 : 7:14:39 PM
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quote: quote: It may be more trouble than it is worth to fix that old Power Torque mechanism.
I would recommend finding a Plymouth switcher with a working MU-2 mechanism
and simply do a shell transplant. Good luck!
Originally posted by Srenchin - October 24 2019 : 7:22:24 PM
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Yeah, Srenchin is right there. Say you replace the brushes and springs, and then the PT pinion gear pops off....that would be quite irritating, to say the least, after having put in so much work. But, it's up to you - if you want a more reliable Tyco Transformers Plymouth switcher (go with an MU-2 motor chassis,) or an 100% accurate one (restore the PT.)
Originally posted by RP model railroads - October 25 2019 : 5:20:19 PM
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Could you please direct me to some Ebay listings with the correct Aurora carbon things and springs please? I just want to make sure I get the right thing, thanks!
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Posted - October 25 2019 : 9:17:44 PM
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quote: quote: quote: It may be more trouble than it is worth to fix that old Power Torque mechanism.
I would recommend finding a Plymouth switcher with a working MU-2 mechanism
and simply do a shell transplant. Good luck!
Originally posted by Srenchin - October 24 2019 : 7:22:24 PM
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Yeah, Srenchin is right there. Say you replace the brushes and springs, and then the PT pinion gear pops off....that would be quite irritating, to say the least, after having put in so much work. But, it's up to you - if you want a more reliable Tyco Transformers Plymouth switcher (go with an MU-2 motor chassis,) or an 100% accurate one (restore the PT.)
Originally posted by RP model railroads - October 25 2019 : 5:20:19 PM
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Could you please direct me to some Ebay listings with the correct Aurora carbon things and springs please? I just want to make sure I get the right thing, thanks!
Originally posted by BlaxlandAlex3Â -Â October 25 2019Â :Â 7:14:39 PM
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You actually wouldn't need to swap motors out at all....just the shells. Here's an Ebay listing for a Tyco Santa Fe Plymouth Switcher with the MU-2 style motor. If you were to buy a switcher like this, all you would need to do is pop off the old shell, and pop-on your Transformer shell.
https://www.ebay.com/itm/VTG-TYCO-SANTA-FE-ATSF-241-SWITCHER-ENGINE-HO-SCALE-MODEL-NOT-TESTED-USA/153600328618?hash=item23c34b03aa:g:3rsAAOSw1pddULG2
But again, it is your decision. I just wanted to clarify what Srenchin was suggesting.
As far as the correct pricing/listings for replacement brushes and springs go, I have no clue.
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Edited by - RP model railroads on October 25 2019 9:18:57 PM
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