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 Posted - July 24 2016 : 10:09:17 AM
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Digging into the past, a D&RG F7 Hi-F by Athearn. Got this at a show some years ago, still haven't done anything with it. Plenty of projects , I have. Plenty of time, I have not. sigh.
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Posted - July 24 2016 : 12:58:29 PM
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Here is a small diesel Hustler I got today at the Wayne train Show.
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Posted - July 24 2016 : 1:01:27 PM
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Two views of a NOS Pemco L&N Alco underway at the El Paso Model Train
Club. I have never heard of Pemco. Maker's stamp says made in "Hong Kong."
It has a motor and drive eerily similar to a Tyco PT. Two axle drive, but it
pulls very nicely. Had it out of the box for its maiden voyage late last week.
Seen here powered up.
Nice piece, Gremlin. I really look forward to seeing her resurrected. The
white walls on that Navy Yard piece are terrific. Is that a Marx?
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Posted - July 24 2016 : 3:18:13 PM
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Jerry, looking at your F7, I see that mine is slightly different.
The trucks on my recent arrival attach with screws, up through the chassis,
and into removable Hi-F drive shaft posts.
I wonder which version came first?
My guess would be, more parts first, less parts later.
 
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Posted - July 24 2016 : 5:11:17 PM
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Just got this pair in the mail, along with the trainset. Rivarossi E8 powered and dummy pair lettered for American Orient Express. They are a bit banged up but still look quite nice.
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Posted - July 25 2016 : 04:49:54 AM
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quote:Here is a small diesel Hustler I got today at the Wayne train Show.
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Originally posted by toptrain - July 24 2016 : 12:58:29 PM
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I'm pretty sure that's a Lionel HO, Gear drive to both axles, same body as Athearn.
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Posted - July 25 2016 : 04:55:52 AM
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quote:
Two views of a NOS Pemco L&N Alco underway at the El Paso Model Train
Club. I have never heard of Pemco. Maker's stamp says made in "Hong Kong."
It has a motor and drive eerily similar to a Tyco PT. Two axle drive, but it
pulls very nicely. Had it out of the box for its maiden voyage late last week.
Seen here powered up.
Nice piece, Gremlin. I really look forward to seeing her resurrected. The
white walls on that Navy Yard piece are terrific. Is that a Marx?
Originally posted by Chops124Â -Â July 24 2016Â :Â 1:01:27 PM
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Pemco was around in the 80's, I'm not sure when they left the market but they also had a nice looking GG1 that had a cheapie type drive. Could you post a picture of the motor/ drive setup? Cox had some Tyco clone GP 20's for a while. Might be similar.
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Posted - July 25 2016 : 11:32:07 AM
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quote:
Pemco was around in the 80's, I'm not sure when they left the market but they also had a nice looking GG1 that had a cheapie type drive. Could you post a picture of the motor/ drive setup? Cox had some Tyco clone GP 20's for a while. Might be similar.
Originally posted by time warp - July 25 2016 : 04:55:52 AM
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well here is your answer about Pemco
http://tycotrain.tripod.com/pemcorailwaysystem/
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Posted - July 26 2016 : 11:23:07 AM
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quote:Just got this pair in the mail, along with the trainset. Rivarossi E8 powered and dummy pair lettered for American Orient Express. They are a bit banged up but still look quite nice.
Originally posted by Redwoods - July 24 2016 : 5:11:17 PM
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Those are some good looking engines Thomas. Are you planning on installing DCC on them?
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Posted - July 26 2016 : 11:45:49 AM
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My pic this week is of a Russian Beauty. Might not pull much but looks great on the layout.
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Posted - July 26 2016 : 2:51:48 PM
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quote: quote:Just got this pair in the mail, along with the trainset. Rivarossi E8 powered and dummy pair lettered for American Orient Express. They are a bit banged up but still look quite nice.
Originally posted by Redwoods - July 24 2016 : 5:11:17 PM
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Those are some good looking engines Thomas. Are you planning on installing DCC on them?
Originally posted by raysouthernpac - July 26 2016 : 11:23:07 AM
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I'm going to try, but only one engine is powered, and on that only one truck is powered, on which only two axles are powered (I'm not sure what Rivarossi was thinking when they designed that power truck  ). I have a spare Proto2000 E unit chassis so I might just end up using that. The train is 6 cars long and I'm not sure the single-trucker will be able to pull it up my 2.5% grades.
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Posted - July 26 2016 : 7:52:54 PM
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quote: quote:Here is a small diesel Hustler I got today at the Wayne train Show.
frank
Originally posted by toptrain - July 24 2016 : 12:58:29 PM
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I'm pretty sure that's a Lionel HO, Gear drive to both axles, same body as Athearn.
Originally posted by time warp - July 25 2016 : 04:49:54 AM
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Yes it is a 1958 Lionel Ho locomotive. The Lionel # for it isn't 51 as on the model but 0570 as in the catalog. I just thought it would be nice for people to see a US Navy locomotive made in HO. It doesn't run right now. It has a Athearn style Hi-Fi drive in it. That is what the first Hustler's released by lionel had. I have found info on that from a major Lionel expert. When the Athearn Loco was used and the Lionel L applied, the 2 made this way both used Hi FI drives. That would be this 0570 Navy Yard loco, and the 0560 D&RG with snow plow. Both were complete Athearn locos with all Athearn parts.
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Posted - July 27 2016 : 11:55:16 AM
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quote: quote: quote:Just got this pair in the mail, along with the trainset. Rivarossi E8 powered and dummy pair lettered for American Orient Express. They are a bit banged up but still look quite nice.
Originally posted by Redwoods - July 24 2016 : 5:11:17 PM
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Those are some good looking engines Thomas. Are you planning on installing DCC on them?
Originally posted by raysouthernpac - July 26 2016 : 11:23:07 AM
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I'm going to try, but only one engine is powered, and on that only one truck is powered, on which only two axles are powered (I'm not sure what Rivarossi was thinking when they designed that power truck ). I have a spare Proto2000 E unit chassis so I might just end up using that. The train is 6 cars long and I'm not sure the single-trucker will be able to pull it up my 2.5% grades.
Originally posted by Redwoods - July 26 2016 : 2:51:48 PM
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I have a pair of CRI&P E8 units with a dummy B. THey make for a great set with the matching cars. The only problem is that the one unit cannot pull more that 4 cars on a very short grade. It barely makes it with the other powered A though. THey look way cool though so I will try my best to dcc them.
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Posted - July 27 2016 : 7:11:54 PM
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Originally posted by raysouthernpac - July 26 2016 : 11:23:07 AM
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I'm going to try, but only one engine is powered, and on that only one truck is powered, on which only two axles are powered (I'm not sure what Rivarossi was thinking when they designed that power truck ). I have a spare Proto2000 E unit chassis so I might just end up using that. The train is 6 cars long and I'm not sure the single-trucker will be able to pull it up my 2.5% grades.
I have a pair of CRI&P E8 units with a dummy B. THey make for a great set with the matching cars. The only problem is that the one unit cannot pull more that 4 cars on a very short grade. It barely makes it with the other powered A though. THey look way cool though so I will try my best to dcc them.
Originally posted by raysouthernpac - July 27 2016 : 11:55:16 AM
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Well you can add another power truck to the powered one and get another frame that is powered, and even double power it also.
Or you can get a Hobbytown E8 powered chassis and pull everything.
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Posted - July 27 2016 : 7:20:46 PM
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I added a little something extra. A video of the Hustler, Navy yard Loco 51 pulling a small freight,( it runs now) and a Lionel Husky, M&StL 0055 pulling another freight. The name Hustler is on the Athearn Navy loco, and the name Husky is one given to the small diesels by Lionel.
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Posted - July 28 2016 : 12:39:16 PM
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I will add another Pemco. Also have a CN boxcar by Pemco...
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Posted - July 29 2016 : 5:02:04 PM
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Hmm, sounds like we should start a Pemco Forum! Seriously
though, one of the links showed and interesting little spread of Pemco, and that the company didn"t last too long. The similarity to Tyco is very suspicious. I wonder if they were trying to cash in on Tyco's bandwagon? I'd like to see a
post of that CN box you got.
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Posted - July 29 2016 : 7:09:16 PM
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quote:The similarity to Tyco is very suspicious. I wonder if they were trying to cash in on Tyco's bandwagon?
Originally posted by Chops124Â -Â July 29 2016Â :Â 5:02:04 PM
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It nags at my mind that I saw something to the effect that Pemco was founded by some former Tyco employees, but I can't remember specifically enough to be really sure. Does anyone here have further information?
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Posted - July 29 2016 : 8:27:03 PM
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quote: quote:The similarity to Tyco is very suspicious. I wonder if they were trying to cash in on Tyco's bandwagon?
Originally posted by Chops124Â -Â July 29 2016Â :Â 5:02:04 PM
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It nags at my mind that I saw something to the effect that Pemco was founded by some former Tyco employees, but I can't remember specifically enough to be really sure. Does anyone here have further information?
Originally posted by scsshaggy - July 29 2016 : 7:09:16 PM
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You probably read it here:
http://www.trainorders.com/discussion/read.php?3,451099
I have a Pemco 2-6-0 and 0-4-0 and they are both nice runners. The 2-6-0 is tender powered and is actually quite smooth.
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Posted - July 29 2016 : 8:29:32 PM
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quote:
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I'm going to try, but only one engine is powered, and on that only one truck is powered, on which only two axles are powered (I'm not sure what Rivarossi was thinking when they designed that power truck ). I have a spare Proto2000 E unit chassis so I might just end up using that. The train is 6 cars long and I'm not sure the single-trucker will be able to pull it up my 2.5% grades.
I have a pair of CRI&P E8 units with a dummy B. THey make for a great set with the matching cars. The only problem is that the one unit cannot pull more that 4 cars on a very short grade. It barely makes it with the other powered A though. THey look way cool though so I will try my best to dcc them.
Originally posted by raysouthernpac - July 27 2016 : 11:55:16 AM
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Well you can add another power truck to the powered one and get another frame that is powered, and even double power it also.
Or you can get a Hobbytown E8 powered chassis and pull everything.
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Originally posted by toptrain - July 27 2016 : 7:11:54 PM
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Hobbytown chassis - I like that idea. Thank you Frank!
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Posted - July 30 2016 : 5:46:43 PM
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Thanks, Redwoods. That answers my question and more.
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