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 Posted - May 06 2016 : 5:55:44 PM
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I saw these on ebay recently and was wondering if they are legit Tyco variations. The Weaver train looks like it has paper stickers on it and the Seasons Greeting one I have never seen. The Seasons Greeting one looks real and bidding is almost up to $100 so wondering if people are just foolishly bidding on customs or they know something I dont.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-Scale-Tyco-Box-Car-Seasons-Greatings-built-1977-WES-/222105743436?hash=item33b688b04c:g:2jEAAOSwiYFXJ9xu
http://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-Scale-Tyco-Box-Car-Weaver-WES-/222105748660?hash=item33b688c4b4:g:iT4AAOSw3mpXJ96U
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 Posted - May 06 2016 : 6:49:43 PM
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The Weaver piece looks like someone put "decals" on and made their own piece. Tyco had a Season Greeting box car but that's not the one I've seen over the years...
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Posted - May 06 2016 : 7:23:44 PM
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The Weaver could be a prototype but someone could have tried to"copy" Tyco
(Was Weaver owned by Sara Lee?)
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Posted - May 06 2016 : 7:49:46 PM
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The Seasons Greetings car is an uncataloged car which was supposedly given to employees at Christmas, 1977. It is legit.
The Weaver car is someone's kit bash, not Tyco
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Posted - May 06 2016 : 8:11:50 PM
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Another thing to consider in auctions is that competitiveness often overrides common sense.
Feedback-hungry attention w****
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Posted - May 06 2016 : 10:36:30 PM
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| thx-1138 LOVE your avatar
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Posted - May 08 2016 : 12:37:02 AM
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| Notice the Weaver car has a "return when empty" decal at lower right. That to me implies a prototype of some sort.
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Posted - May 09 2016 : 10:28:38 AM
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| The TYCO "Seasons Greetings is ultra-ultra rare and who ever got it for $80 bucks got a steal!!! I have bee looking for one of those every since GIC snagged one around 5 years ago!!!
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Posted - May 09 2016 : 10:50:46 AM
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quote:The TYCO "Seasons Greetings is ultra-ultra rare and who ever got it for $80 bucks got a steal!!! I have bee looking for one of those every since GIC snagged one around 5 years ago!!!
Originally posted by GG-1 Guy - May 09 2016 : 10:28:38 AM
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The Seasons Greetings Car is quite rare. The car in the auction is in fair condition, which had a negative effect on its value.
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Posted - May 09 2016 : 1:00:17 PM
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quote:Notice the Weaver car has a "return when empty" decal at lower right. That to me implies a prototype of some sort.
Originally posted by lvrr325Â -Â May 08 2016Â :Â 12:37:02 AM
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After taking a second look at the Weaver Car Ebay listing, I changed my opinion from it being a hobbyist's custom car to the possibility it could be a factory mockup.
Pro: The Weaver Car came from the same seller that listed the 1977 Employee Christmas Car. This leads to the possibility, that both cars traveled from the Tyco Plant together.
Con: Normally a preproduction factory mockup would only be decorated on one side. From the Ebay listing, it cannot be determined if the car is decorated on one or both sides. If the car was only decorated on one side, I think the seller would have mentioned it.
I don't know if anyone can say with certainty that the Weaver Car is or is not a factory prototype. I am leaning to the side that it is not.
Edited by - waw47 on May 09 2016 1:03:50 PM
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Posted - May 10 2016 : 3:30:40 PM
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| I thought the same thing about it being a pre-production mock up. If so, someone got a steal at 9 bucks.
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Posted - May 10 2016 : 4:29:38 PM
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After looking at the Weaver car listing for the third time, it appears that the car is decorated on both sides. This increases the likelihood that the car was decorated by a hobbyist. The H in "Helping to feed you family better" has a white spot in the center of it, in the first picture. In the last picture there is no white spot on the H.
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