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 Posted - December 28 2015 : 03:56:24 AM
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I bought this loco to bolster my American steam power, and have a proper express passenger loco since my customized (and still non-running) Clementine is more of a freight/switching loco. It's apparently old, and I haven't had any luck finding data about the complete model or about what exact class it's supposed to be.
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Posted - December 28 2015 : 04:28:22 AM
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Mantua 4-6-2. Missing a tender and pilot and a draw bar. These are good runners.
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Posted - December 28 2015 : 08:08:07 AM
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my error
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Posted - December 28 2015 : 11:56:14 AM
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catfordken, that isn't even a Pacific, That is SO not the same loco.
Thanks Justin, that would explain the resemblance to the Mantua "Crescent Limited" Pacific. Although... are you entirely sure? The Mantua Pacifics I've seen have had tender pickup but this one doesn't seem to have so much as the broken end of a wire sticking out
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Posted - December 28 2015 : 12:27:15 PM
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The cab is the only thing that isn't from a Pacific. That tender, according to its running number (99), is from the tyco/mantua 0-4-0 shifter and 2-6-2 prairie.
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Posted - December 28 2015 : 1:06:43 PM
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sorry for the confusion,my apologies ZeldaTheSwordsman,tyco/mantua pacific
yours needs this pilot
i have over 50 tyco/mantua locos all have the power lead going to the tender,sorry guys still getting over xmas lol
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Posted - December 29 2015 : 02:03:54 AM
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Yeah, I knew about the Mantua locos all having a power lead going to the tender; that's what thew me since the photos have no sign of the loco I bought having so much as a broken lead. Bachmann steamers (like the seller thought it was) tend to be powered and driven solely by the main loco when possible.
As for the pilot, I was actually planning on fabricating one since I plan to streamline the running boards.
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Posted - January 03 2016 : 3:01:08 PM
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| Wouldn't it be about 100 times easier to pick up an IHC semi-streamlined Pacific? They can be had cheap if you're patient.
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Posted - January 03 2016 : 4:07:37 PM
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First off, I don't have any money left over after my recent purchases. Second, I already have this loco. Third, what exactly is super-difficult about fabricating some steps, some mostly-smooth side-skirts, and a smooth solid cowcatcher?
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Posted - January 03 2016 : 5:08:44 PM
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quote:First off, I don't have any money left over after my recent purchases. Second, I already have this loco. Third, what exactly is super-difficult about fabricating some steps, some mostly-smooth side-skirts, and a smooth solid cowcatcher?
Originally posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman - January 03 2016 : 4:07:37 PM
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It was just a suggestion, Zelda 
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 Posted - January 03 2016 : 7:30:08 PM
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I'm sorry... Being told "Don't even try, just buy something else" is kinda a sore spot for me....
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Posted - January 04 2016 : 09:43:39 AM
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quote:I'm sorry... Being told "Don't even try, just buy something else" is kinda a sore spot for me....
Originally posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman - January 03 2016 : 7:30:08 PM
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Well I respect your outlook on that. Too much RTR going on today (it seems so anyway) and not enough modeling.
I don't think the point is "don't try" though, more like "it's out there for relatively cheap right now, already done correctly." More like an option.
I prefer to paint/decal my own trains, add details and upgrades. It's what I enjoy about the hobby - plus, I can't afford the new RTR stuff on the LHS shelves anyway - or if I did, there goes the modeling budget for the year!
But the truth is - unfortunately, after I am finished with a project rebuilding something I picked up for next to nothing, when I look back and honestly tally up the cost of what I put into it - sometimes it comes out just as much as the pricey jewels sitting on the shelf. I sure do value it more though!
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Posted - January 04 2016 : 9:17:05 PM
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Well, "Relatively cheap" is as good as $200 given the whole not having any spending money left thing.
What I'm planning is Daylight-style skirt plates with a matching pilot (although possibly pointed instead of straight). which is simple enough and I have plenty of scrap plasticard to use for the purpose as well as a supply of CA glue. I also plan to build a streamlined tender with a corridor end for it, which is going to be a bit trickier, but not too bad. I've got insulated metal wheelsets that can be used for the purpose, even.
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Posted - January 05 2016 : 09:21:49 AM
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quote:Well, "Relatively cheap" is as good as $200 given the whole not having any spending money left thing.
What I'm planning is Daylight-style skirt plates with a matching pilot (although possibly pointed instead of straight). which is simple enough and I have plenty of scrap plasticard to use for the purpose as well as a supply of CA glue. I also plan to build a streamlined tender with a corridor end for it, which is going to be a bit trickier, but not too bad. I've got insulated metal wheelsets that can be used for the purpose, even.
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A corridor tender, interesting. These were rare in the US, if indeed they were ever used. I have heard rumors that the B&O P-7d streamlined Pacifics used on the Cincinnatian may have had them, to allow a crew change en route on their very tight schedule.
I have not been able to find confirmation of this rumor, but if true it would make sense that the B&O management was somewhat Anglophile in the steam era.
To make it most plausible, the car for crew accommodations (maybe a combine or baggage-dormitory) would have to be placed between the locomotive and any Railway Post Office or mail cars. US crews were not allowed access to mail cars, nor could they walk through them.
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Posted - January 05 2016 : 10:38:19 AM
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Well, I know for a fact that the Milwaukee Road Class A locos had corridor tenders; I've seen photos. And yeah, I'm aware of US crews being restricted from mail cars because the corridor ran through the mail storage.
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Posted - January 05 2016 : 1:42:15 PM
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quote:Well, I know for a fact that the Milwaukee Road Class A locos had corridor tenders; I've seen photos.
Originally posted by ZeldaTheSwordsman - January 05 2016 : 10:38:19 AM
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Now that is interesting, I wasn't aware of that. I'm assuming they were used for crew changes, but I wonder why the Milwaukee needed to change crews midway, since the schedule was only 6 1/2 hours total. Or was it for crew communications? The original Hiawatha carried no mail cars, and the train crew therefore had no obstacle between them and the enginemen.
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