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 Posted - December 29 2015 : 01:12:20 AM
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This is another locomotive that I received along with the Aristocraft 2-6-0 that
I redid as the xmas loco. There are a couple of things that I would like to
know before I consider restoring this thing.
1. Is this a common loco, or will parts be a problem and who made it.
2. If I should need them, is there a company that makes decals for this loco.
3. Are there any instructions for assembly/disassembly of this loco.
4. Or have I just finally lost all of my marbles?
I'm pretty sure that I can get rid of the rust and rust stains and replace most of
the damaged/destroyed parts. And I could use a change from doing American
locos to trying some British ones.
Any opinions/suggestions/assistance would be greatly appreciated. I have only seen
one other like this on eBay, but it was called the "King George".
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Posted - December 29 2015 : 01:54:38 AM
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1.Reasonably common. Looks like a Tri-Ang/Hornby model to me, what with those big tension-locksr. Parts shouldn't be a problem, especially if you check eBay.co.uk The real-world loco class is the GWR King class, of which "King George" is also an example.
2. Yes, there is. Fox Transfers makes waterslide decals for the locos and rolling stock of several British railway companies. They also manufacture metal number and name plates.
3. Yes, there are. Shouldn't be too hard to find.
4. You haven't lost them, you sold them to pay for train stuff :P
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Posted - December 29 2015 : 06:32:11 AM
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If that loco is either Hornby, Triang, or Lima, it should clearly say the manufactures name someplace on the bottom of the boiler or the tender. It shouldn't be a question to ask, but just something to read.
* To me it looks like a Lima drive. I have " King George the V ", a 4-6-0 Great Western locomotive. It shares the same boiler. Where yours is #6009 mine is #6000.
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Posted - December 29 2015 : 07:00:03 AM
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Yes the drive is Lima. Is it a plastic boiler or a cast metal one. Yours is older than mine, though mine is old. I have a plastic boiler, cast on handrails. your handrails are metal and rusted away. My loco and tender clearly says Lima on the bottom.
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Posted - December 29 2015 : 07:28:01 AM
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I had and still have photos of another GW 4-6-0 but of a earlier, lower, number 5090. It was made by Life like in what was a Proto class loco so better detailed. The Name on the loco was " Neath Abbey ". I didn't keep it because LL chose to use plastic crosshead guides for the main rods piston which also was plastic, Delrill (nylon). At speed it would come apart. So the loco is gone from my collection. It was a pretty one !
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Posted - December 29 2015 : 07:53:10 AM
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One other of close to the same class of great Western locos I have is a cast metal version. I was told Hornby use to make the locos of die cast metal. Also a company Wrenn, made a die cast version. Their also is a putter kit of the class loco. I think mine is a Wrenn made model. Kenny has a unpainted model of this loco.
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Posted - December 29 2015 : 10:14:48 AM
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King Charles II. Built March 1928. First and last shed allocation Old Oak Common. 'Alfloc' water treatment fitted 1954. Double chimney fitted May 1956. Withdrawn September 1962. Scrapped at Cashmore's, Newport.
the original was a 4-6-0 GWR 6000 Class
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Posted - December 29 2015 : 1:57:26 PM
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2 of the 3 i had,one now resides in usa,great models
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Posted - December 29 2015 : 10:46:22 PM
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Thank all. I cleaned up the bottom plate of the tender and it says Lima.
The boiler is plastic and the emblem on the tender side is a Lion astride
a spoked wheel. I may go ahead and try to get it back in shape (although
I will have to cast new weights for the tender, rotted). The motor is in
good shape and runs rather nicely. The drivers, as rusted as one side is,
turn freely and are in pretty good shape. I am somewhat worried about
being able to save the decals and the couplers will both have to be
replaced. Going to be a nice change of pace for me.
Nice brass there cat.
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Posted - December 30 2015 : 2:17:56 PM
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That engine is definitely from Hornby. I know because of the tender drive motor. I can't find much on this model besides that it's from Hornby, and it's from the 80s or 90s.
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Posted - December 30 2015 : 3:48:22 PM
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sorry steve its a lima who also used a similar pancake motor in looks to hornby,hornby blue br is with white lining,lima for some reason chose yellow
lima
plus hornby have never released a king charles 2 in br blue
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Posted - December 30 2015 : 3:57:04 PM
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Yeah, I thought it was Hornby too. Mind you, it doesn't help that IIRC Hornby acquired Lima's OO toolings.
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Posted - December 30 2015 : 4:01:43 PM
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sorry its most definitely not hornby,as hornby only released king george v in br blue
http://www.hornbyguide.com/class_details.asp?classid=1
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Posted - December 30 2015 : 4:58:48 PM
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Thanks to all who responded. Extra to Cat for the photo of what it should look like.
Now, is there anyplace anyone knows of to get replacement couplers for this thing?
The coupler on the pilot truck is completely gone and the tender one is probably
not going to be repairable.
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Posted - December 30 2015 : 5:02:18 PM
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give me a day or so,will get back regards couplers,are they plastic or metal do they look like this
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Posted - December 30 2015 : 5:05:13 PM
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all this British steam has made me drool
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Posted - December 30 2015 : 5:07:28 PM
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or like this
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Posted - December 30 2015 : 5:14:52 PM
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instructions for you my good man
http://mmiwakoh.de/Eigene%20Webs/Ersatzteilblaetter/ET5103.pdf
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Posted - December 30 2015 : 8:42:58 PM
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They are like the second photo. These are attached to the frames by a small flathead screw.
A million times thank you for the instructions. Let me know where I can get the couplers if
you would please.
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Posted - December 30 2015 : 9:49:05 PM
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Well, I think Carfordken was implying he'd be willing to sell them to you. Beyond that, you can get them on eBay.co.uk or sites like eHattons or Antics Online.
You can find small packs of medium-size tension-lock couplers in shops here in the 'states thanks to Bachmann's Thomas range, but not large ones. I don't think a medium-size one would fit without a little modification.
quote:sorry its most definitely not hornby,as hornby only released king george v in br blue
Originally posted by catfordken - December 30 2015 : 4:01:43 PM
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That's what I'd thought, but I couldn't tell that the paintjob was supposed to be BR Express Blue from oldtimer's photos. The inaccurate yellow stripes and the fact that the lighting makes the blue look like seafoam green threw me off, made me think it was some sort of freelance paintjob.
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Posted - December 30 2015 : 10:12:39 PM
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quote:sorry steve its a lima who also used a similar pancake motor in looks to hornby,hornby blue br is with white lining,lima for some reason chose yellow
lima
plus hornby have never released a king charles 2 in br blue
Originally posted by catfordken - December 30 2015 : 3:48:22 PM
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Oh, so it's Lima, okay.
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Posted - December 31 2015 : 1:40:46 PM
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oh man I needs a couple of the couplers for my Airfix 4F Fowler loco
Plus buffers 
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Posted - January 03 2016 : 3:06:43 PM
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quote:all this British steam has made me drool
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Originally posted by microbusss - December 30 2015 : 5:05:13 PM
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Me 2. LOL.
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