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 Posted - May 16 2015 : 4:16:22 PM
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I just got this little gem, but there is no identification on it. Anyone have any thoughts on
which diesel it is and who made it??
left side view
front view
rear view
shell and frame
underside of frame
truck
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Posted - May 16 2015 : 5:48:57 PM
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| The drive appears to be Varney..except....the name isn't on the bottom plate. Looks like an Asian knock-off drive.
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Posted - May 16 2015 : 6:03:48 PM
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It kinda reminds me of a Tenshodo model, actually. Not sure, though.
-Steve
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Posted - May 16 2015 : 6:21:40 PM
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George,
You have a vintage Japanese Tenshodo EMC FT Diesel. The odd shaped nose is the give away. I believe this is from the 60's. It may be a Varney drive or at least a copy. love the bulb sticking out of the nose headlight.
Tenshodo F9 from HoSeeker
Regards, John
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Edited by - JRG1951 on May 16 2015 6:23:38 PM
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Posted - May 16 2015 : 8:20:27 PM
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Great. Thanks guys. Got this little gem for $32, postage included. Am gonna see about restoring
it and keeping it brass. Will polish it up and coat it. The price was right so I just grabbed it up.
Those instructions for the F9 will help when I go to dis-assemble it for cleaning.
Edited by - oldtimer52 on May 16 2015 8:22:46 PM
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Posted - May 16 2015 : 9:20:32 PM
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I barely got that last post out. Phone rang, been two hours on the phone.
I saw that too and thought "Tenshodo" and no other manufacturer that springs readily to mind messed up the nose as badly as they did.
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Posted - May 16 2015 : 9:44:33 PM
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quote:Great. Thanks guys. Got this little gem for $32, postage included. Am gonna see about restoring
it and keeping it brass. Will polish it up and coat it. The price was right so I just grabbed it up.
Those instructions for the F9 will help when I go to dis-assemble it for cleaning.
Originally posted by oldtimer52Â -Â May 16 2015Â :Â 8:20:27 PM
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That's a great find and buy. I could sit and look at thing for hours. Second the idea of polishing and coating it, just about too beautiful to paint.
http://tycodepot.com/
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Posted - May 16 2015 : 10:32:31 PM
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quote: quote:Great. Thanks guys. Got this little gem for $32, postage included. Am gonna see about restoring
it and keeping it brass. Will polish it up and coat it. The price was right so I just grabbed it up.
Those instructions for the F9 will help when I go to dis-assemble it for cleaning.
Originally posted by oldtimer52Â -Â May 16 2015Â :Â 8:20:27 PM
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That's a great find and buy. I could sit and look at thing for hours. Second the idea of polishing and coating it, just about too beautiful to paint.
Originally posted by JNXT 7707Â -Â May 16 2015Â :Â 9:44:33 PM
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 For $32, you did pretty good, man. I just love how weird it looks.
-Steve
"A lot of modellers out there who go to these train shows see broken HO stuff and go, 'This is useless' when, in reality, they can still be used for modeling whether it's as a prop on your layout or a cool project to make something old new again."
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Posted - May 17 2015 : 1:54:46 PM
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| Looks like a 50s-era FT. Most likely Tenshodo.
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Posted - May 17 2015 : 4:35:01 PM
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I was watching that auction too, and wondered if it was Tenshodo. Interesting that the chassis weight is a somewhat crude casting of the prime mover.
The Tyco Depot
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Posted - May 22 2015 : 11:19:30 AM
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After a little more research, the drive train is a Varney knock-off, right down to the side frames
and the mounts for them. Received it yesterday and the front truck side frame was broken.
Found a set of Varney F3 side frames, and they are EXACT duplicates of the ones that are on
the model. I can use Varney parts to restore the drive train and get it up to full operational
status. Thanks to everyone for their input.
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Posted - May 22 2015 : 11:27:27 AM
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quote:After a little more research, the drive train is a Varney knock-off, right down to the side frames
and the mounts for them. Received it yesterday and the front truck side frame was broken.
Found a set of Varney F3 side frames, and they are EXACT duplicates of the ones that are on
the model. I can use Varney parts to restore the drive train and get it up to full operational
status. Thanks to everyone for their input.
Originally posted by oldtimer52Â -Â May 22 2015Â :Â 11:19:30 AM
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No problem, man. Funny how they completely ripped off Varney in terms of the overall motor and trucks. I find it hilarious. 
-Steve
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Posted - May 22 2015 : 12:56:37 PM
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Actually, it shows that they knew a good thing and then copied it. Imitation is the sincerest form
of flattery as they used to say.
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Posted - May 22 2015 : 3:53:11 PM
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quote:Actually, it shows that they knew a good thing and then copied it. Imitation is the sincerest form
of flattery as they used to say.
Originally posted by oldtimer52Â -Â May 22 2015Â :Â 12:56:37 PM
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Yeah, I guess I can't argue.Whatever the case, they did a pretty good job on it.
-Steve
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Posted - May 22 2015 : 4:41:19 PM
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Maybe,
They bought the drive components from Varney. A lot of other brands of models used Athearn parts in later years.
Regards, John
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Posted - May 22 2015 : 6:12:35 PM
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quote:Maybe,
They bought the drive components from Varney. A lot of other brands of models used Athearn parts in later years.
Regards, John
If we desire to avoid insult, we must be able to repel it; if we desire to secure peace, one of the most powerful instruments of our rising prosperity, it must be known, that we are at all times ready for War. <> George Washington
Originally posted by JRG1951Â -Â May 22 2015Â :Â 4:41:19 PM
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Oh, okay. That sounds logical.
-Steve
"A lot of modellers out there who go to these train shows see broken HO stuff and go, 'This is useless' when, in reality, they can still be used for modeling whether it's as a prop on your layout or a cool project to make something old new again."
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