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I kind of enjoy the Tyco whine and grind, sort of like HO sound effects- until the works seizes up. I have relegated my Tyco power to 20 minutes at a time status and use Athearn for any prolonged hauling. Originally posted by Chops124 - February 01 2015 :  4:53:12 PM

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quote: I kind of enjoy the Tyco whine and grind, sort of like HO sound effects- until the works seizes up. I have relegated my Tyco power to 20 minutes at a time status and use Athearn for any prolonged hauling. Originally posted by Chops124 - February 01 2015 :  4:53:12 PM My Tyco Royal Blue takes 20 minutes of running before I can make it haul anything with any grace haha Originally posted by RDC1 - February 01 2015 :  5:43:29 PM

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Sweet old AHM Krauss-Mauffei pulling a string of Tyco Dutch Maid cars at the El Paso Model Train Club. Rescued from the junk pile, her motor was frozen. A drop of lube and little wheel cleaning and she burst forth anew, running her little heart out. Originally posted by Chops124 - February 02 2015 :  8:40:08 PM

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Sweet old AHM Krauss-Mauffei pulling a string of Tyco Dutch Maid cars at the El Paso Model Train Club. Rescued from the junk pile, her motor was frozen. A drop of lube and little wheel cleaning and she burst forth anew, running her little heart out. Originally posted by Chops124 - February 02 2015 :  8:40:08 PM

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** A loco patiently awaiting proper restoration in its box. A some day project. *** A United PFM, Southern Pacific GS4. frank Originally posted by toptrain - February 03 2015 :  07:58:35 AM

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That will be quite the machine Frank. quote: ** A loco patiently awaiting proper restoration in its box. A some day project. *** A United PFM, Southern Pacific GS4. frank Originally posted by toptrain - February 03 2015 :  07:58:35 AM Originally posted by Barry - February 03 2015 :  10:31:05 PM

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quote: Sweet old AHM Krauss-Mauffei pulling a string of Tyco Dutch Maid cars at the El Paso Model Train Club. Rescued from the junk pile, her motor was frozen. A drop of lube and little wheel cleaning and she burst forth anew, running her little heart out. Originally posted by Chops124 - February 02 2015 :  8:40:08 PM That actually sounded quite beautiful. Originally posted by kovacste000 - February 02 2015 :  10:20:39 PM

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quote: quote: Sweet old AHM Krauss-Mauffei pulling a string of Tyco Dutch Maid cars at the El Paso Model Train Club. Rescued from the junk pile, her motor was frozen. A drop of lube and little wheel cleaning and she burst forth anew, running her little heart out. Originally posted by Chops124 - February 02 2015 :  8:40:08 PM That actually sounded quite beautiful. Originally posted by kovacste000 - February 02 2015 :  10:20:39 PM You are very kind, I must mention the fire station, and layout it sits on, is the El Paso Model Train Club. I believe the fire house scene was built by a then teenager in or about 1987, shortly after the Club took over its new quarters. Standing invite: all TFers welcome to come and run your train(s) at the club, bring your Tyco, bring your Genesis. All good here. Also, we are HO DCC ready at the flip of a switch. We have a dang big N scale layout and a medium small O scale layout too (analog). You and I will do a heck of a photo shoot of your work. Originally posted by Chops124 - February 04 2015 :  9:26:21 PM

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My LOTW is a new Bachmann UP F7A. I got it mainly for the drivetrain, to mate up with the Bachmann ATSF F7A in my Super Chief ABBA set so I have two matched powered units (replacing the shell with a F7B). I have to say I am pretty impressed with the shell detail on this. Just for fun, I'm posting an Athearn Genesis UP F7A below it for comparison's sake. I know the Genesis drivetrain is superior, as well as the shell - but still, it's interesting comparing the two, considering the Genesis costs 3 times what the Bachmann does. The Athearn Genesis: Originally posted by JNXT 7707 - February 05 2015 :  6:47:09 PM

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There's actually quite a few distinct differences between the two models. The hand rails on the Genesis has more detail, the horn on the Genesis looks more fragile, etc. Originally posted by kovacste000 - February 06 2015 :  09:21:29 AM

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quote: There's actually quite a few distinct differences between the two models. The hand rails on the Genesis has more detail, the horn on the Genesis looks more fragile, etc. Originally posted by kovacste000 - February 06 2015 :  09:21:29 AM Oh yes, when you have the two models side-by-side there are indeed many differences: paint color, flush window glass, ventilation screen detail, letter spacing of "Union Pacific" just to name a few. However, what strikes me is the level of detail on the Bachmann unit for the price. The Bachmann was new-in-box from ebay for $34, the Genesis was over $100 new-in-box 10 years ago (both are DC/non-sound equipped). Operationally the Bachmann is nearly identical to the Genesis, the biggest difference is weight - the Bachmann is fairly light, however it has plenty of places to add stick-on weights to remedy that. Originally posted by JNXT 7707 - February 06 2015 :  12:38:15 PM

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Athearn Vs Bachmann I grew up with Athearn. I still have a lot of the ready to run and old blue box stuff, But they are no longer the company they used to be. A friend had some Genesis F7's with sound. These were early units with MRC sound. They were crap. I will continue to run Athearn where they have the model I need, but all my F units will be Bachmann. The best model with the finest detail is a bust if you can't get it or when it breaks you can't find parts. A $300 diesel engine or a $500 steam engine will seldom be in my budget. Price /tyco/forum/uploaded/JRG1951/20150206100452_F7s.gif Diagram > You won't find this on Athearn's Site http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/dwg/dwgs/HO_F7-A_Sound.pdf Parts > You won't find this type of organized list on Athearn's Site http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=66_68_203 Bachmann is not perfect, but they are working hard to be better. Regards, John Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. <> Junior Originally posted by JRG1951 - February 06 2015 :  10:36:57 AM

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quote: Athearn Vs Bachmann I grew up with Athearn. I still have a lot of the ready to run and old blue box stuff, But they are no longer the company they used to be. A friend had some Genesis F7's with sound. These were early units with MRC sound. They were crap. I will continue to run Athearn where they have the model I need, but all my F units will be Bachmann. The best model with the finest detail is a bust if you can't get it or when it breaks you can't find parts. A $300 diesel engine or a $500 steam engine will seldom be in my budget. Price /tyco/forum/uploaded/JRG1951/20150206100452_F7s.gif Diagram > You won't find this on Athearn's Site http://www.bachmanntrains.com/home-usa/dwg/dwgs/HO_F7-A_Sound.pdf Parts > You won't find this type of organized list on Athearn's Site http://estore.bachmanntrains.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=66_68_203 Bachmann is not perfect, but they are working hard to be better. Regards, John Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea. <> Junior Originally posted by JRG1951 - February 06 2015 :  10:36:57 AM Seems to me like Bachmann's spent the last couple decades trying to become a better company, and distance themselves from the folks who made crappy locos with cracked gears in the 80's, while Athearn has spent the last decade getting worse, dropping blue box (now that's a complaining session we've all had enough of) and going elitist on us in some ways. Bachmann may have their faults, but they continue to make better models all the time,and their customer service is some of the best I've ever experienced. Respect for them. Originally posted by PRR 4800 - February 07 2015 :  10:15:19 AM