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 Posted - November 25 2014 : 8:03:09 PM
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I have an old switch like the one pictured. I have no switch machine for it and need to know what switch machine works with this switch.
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Posted - November 25 2014 : 9:36:47 PM
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Well, you can probably find the smallish original type black "weiner" coils which really "snap" the switch back and forth. or , you can upgrade and get the newer Tortoise switch machines, they're made to fit under the layout board, you drill a hole opening for the rod, and mount the salt-shaker-sized switch machine under the switch. If you're running on a flat board, then you will probably need to find the more original weiner coiled switches. You could buy them separate to install on manual switches. Or, they make small manual throw switches, if you don't wanna bother with a powered version.
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Posted - November 25 2014 : 9:46:11 PM
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| where would I find weiner coiled switches?.
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Posted - November 25 2014 : 10:42:02 PM
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| Go to Ebay, your hobby shop, or a swap meet and look for Atlas Switch Machine. Make sure you get the correct one you need - they come in left and right.
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Posted - November 25 2014 : 11:23:45 PM
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quote:Go to Ebay, your hobby shop, or a swap meet and look for Atlas Switch Machine. Make sure you get the correct one you need - they come in left and right.
Originally posted by Retired Alex - November 25 2014 : 10:42:02 PM
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Is this what you are talking about?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Atlas-Model-Railroad-HO-N-Under-Table-Switch-Machine-ATL65-/291123878351?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item43c855d9cf
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Posted - November 26 2014 : 12:12:08 AM
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That's an Atlas box, but the switch doesn't look like any Atlas switch I ever saw, and it doesn't have the attachment points for an Atlas switch machine. The throw bar isn't designed to work with it either. I think that's some other brand.
The frog is electrified and the points are connected electrically, so I think that the points supply power to the frog and closure rails from whichever stock rail they touch. That affects how the thing is wired. Either the points need to make very solid contact with the stock rails or you need relay connections on the switch motor to positively electrify the frog.
Both rails leading away from the frog will have the same polarity as the stock rail with a point touching it, so it's a power routing switch, unlike the usual Snap switch.
If mounting under the tracks is an option, I think the Tortoise is the best way to go and I think it has relay contacts for wiring the powered frog, as well.
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Posted - November 26 2014 : 07:13:29 AM
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No, that's a circa-1960-ish Atlas switch. Fiber ties, rails stapled in place. They came in boxes like that both assembled and as kits.
For what used switches sell for, brass especially, I wouldn't use it, the fiber tie track is subject to warping and things because the ties absorb moisture.
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Posted - November 26 2014 : 2:25:03 PM
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or get that one called Tortise
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Posted - November 26 2014 : 3:50:30 PM
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Frank,
I would tend to agree with Irvv. If use one then this may help with the rail wiring.
Regards John
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