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 Posted - October 05 2014 : 5:41:59 PM
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Rescued from a hobby shop $1 box. Has metal sides, roof and ends....the base is wood, and there is wood under the ends and roof. Varney? Silver Streak?
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Edited by - JNXT 7707 on October 05 2014 5:43:03 PM
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Posted - October 05 2014 : 6:01:40 PM
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looks to be Athearn.
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Posted - October 05 2014 : 6:09:20 PM
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I have one very similar to that that I got at a train show yesterday. The only big difference right off the bat is that mine is Santa Fe instead of New Haven. Here's a photo of mine.
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Posted - October 06 2014 : 8:18:55 PM
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Diagnoses:
JNXT, it's either early Athearn or Globe, probably Globe b/c you can see the brass ends. No doors, and it's jacked up on too many washers so that Mantua couplers could be installed, but they're no longer there. You'll probably find two holes drilled where each coupler would have been mounted. Stirrup steps are missing as well, can't recall if this version had individual steps or one stamped piece on each end that had the step for either side.
I seem to recall Varney made the same car number, but I could be wrong. Sometime I'll have to dig out my Varney NH cars to check...
Steven: your car is (I think) a Details West kit, an ATSF plug-door. Yours is missing the grabirons, at least 2 stirrups, and should be riding on bettendorf trucks instead of 70-ton roller-bearing trucks.
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Posted - October 06 2014 : 9:37:06 PM
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quote:Diagnoses:
JNXT, it's either early Athearn or Globe, probably Globe b/c you can see the brass ends. No doors, and it's jacked up on too many washers so that Mantua couplers could be installed, but they're no longer there. You'll probably find two holes drilled where each coupler would have been mounted. Stirrup steps are missing as well, can't recall if this version had individual steps or one stamped piece on each end that had the step for either side.
I seem to recall Varney made the same car number, but I could be wrong. Sometime I'll have to dig out my Varney NH cars to check...
Originally posted by PRR 4800Â -Â October 06 2014Â :Â 8:18:55 PM
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Thanks PRR - I had already removed the couplers, and yes each one was attached with two tiny nails. One had "Rail Line" embossed on it. I actually removed a set of washers, but had to leave one set on or it wouldn't take a curve without the flanges rubbing on the frame.
That's two votes for Athearn so far....
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Posted - October 06 2014 : 9:39:03 PM
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quote:
Steven: your car is (I think) a Details West kit, an ATSF plug-door. Yours is missing the grabirons, at least 2 stirrups, and should be riding on bettendorf trucks instead of 70-ton roller-bearing trucks.
Originally posted by PRR 4800Â -Â October 06 2014Â :Â 8:18:55 PM
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Ah, interesting. I'm not surprised it doesn't use some of the original parts to be honest. Still a nice freight car in my book.
-Steve
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Posted - October 06 2014 : 10:06:22 PM
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JNXT
Toptrain is right, your New Haven Box Car was produced by Athearn or Menzies. The number on the Globe New Haven Box Car is 32985.
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Posted - October 07 2014 : 3:29:00 PM
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JNXT 7707, Not sure if I am able to rule out Globe due to a car number, because I was not around then and I do not have any detailed catalogs showing car numbers for either manufacturer, but being an avid New Haven collector, I have to agree it is either Athearn or Globe. I tend to lean toward Globe due to the brass ends as I do not recall the Athearn having brass ends.
Well that's my argument anyways. Someone shows me an Athearn kit with brass ends and I'll shut-up! LOL For once... anyway!
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Posted - October 07 2014 : 8:31:24 PM
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Athearn 1948 Catalog: http://hoseeker.net/AthearnBrochuresAds/brochure1948pg2.jpg
You will notice graphics are identical and the number on the car is 30565.
Greenberg's Guide to Athearn Trains: Page 49, Athearn New Haven Metal Box Car numbers 30093, 30509, 30560, 30937 and the subject car 30565.
Greenberg's Guide to Athearn Trains: Page 152, Globe New Haven Metal Box Car number 32985.
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Posted - October 07 2014 : 9:22:20 PM
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THANKS everyone - I think this is probably my oldest car. Pretty cool! 
Now to find a pair of doors for it
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Posted - October 07 2014 : 9:52:22 PM
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quote:
Now to find a pair of doors for it
Originally posted by JNXT 7707Â -Â October 07 2014Â :Â 9:22:20 PM
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Yeah I got the same problem with my promo(?) Weyerhaeuser boxcar 
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Posted - October 07 2014 : 11:31:56 PM
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quote:Athearn 1948 Catalog: http://hoseeker.net/AthearnBrochuresAds/brochure1948pg2.jpg
You will notice graphics are identical and the number on the car is 30565.
Greenberg's Guide to Athearn Trains: Page 49, Athearn New Haven Metal Box Car numbers 30093, 30509, 30560, 30937 and the subject car 30565.
Greenberg's Guide to Athearn Trains: Page 152, Globe New Haven Metal Box Car number 32985.
Originally posted by waw47Â -Â October 07 2014Â :Â 8:31:24 PM
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Well done waw47!
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Posted - October 14 2014 : 9:55:32 PM
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Here it is, doors added and couplers too. I love bringing back these old survivors.
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Posted - October 15 2014 : 10:24:56 PM
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quote:Here it is, doors added and couplers too. I love bringing back these old survivors.
Originally posted by JNXT 7707Â -Â October 14 2014Â :Â 9:55:32 PM
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*applause* It lives!  One thing I forgot to mention, and not to nitpick, but... the grab irons to the side are absent. Ordinary staples originally sufficed, or grab irons can be bought from Tichy at $3 for a pack of 100 (at least at my LHS), if you'd like to install them.
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Posted - October 16 2014 : 06:42:28 AM
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Thanks for the comments PRR, and good point, yes I did notice the holes where grab irons go and plan on fixing them too eventually. $3 a bag of 100? Not bad!
Needs some stirrups too. But I mainly wanted to bring it to a presentable running condition for now.
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