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Here's the cars I'm wondering about.



I'm not sure what the date on the Santa Fe car means so that's why I made a closer picture of it.

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I'd say they're both Athearn products from the 1970s. The FGE most definitely is Athearn - the trucks have typical Athearn delrin wheels on steel axles, and Athearn always had the steel weight between the floor and the frame of the car. The metal coupler pocket clips also indicate it's Athearn. As for the ATSF, I think it's is also Athearn, although it looks as though the axles and weight have been painted black. As for the date, it's probably when the original owner assembled the car and added it to his fleet.
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Both Athearn, 40' reefer typical of 1965-1999, 50' may have been introduced later.

Some guys were sticklers about knowing when things were bought or built, I've run into a few things like that, most out of one estate, but I've had others - one an AHM loco that had a detailed list of not only when bought but each modification made and when tested.


Might want to take that FGE apart and clean up and paint the weight.
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Yup, both are athearn BB. The FGE reefer, judging by the lettering quality, I'd guess it's from between when they were introduced in 1966 and the mid-70's. The 40' car looks to be a little newer, and it says 2/19/1975, so I'd put the 50' car in the late 60's. Athearn always had a bit of a fixation on making all the different santa fe boxcars and reefers, so I'm told. The FGE 50' car could use a bit of a cleaning and it's missing some stirrups, but those reefers always clean up real nice. I believe I have 4 or 5.
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Yup, both are athearn BB. The FGE reefer, judging by the lettering quality, I'd guess it's from between when they were introduced in 1966 and the mid-70's. The 40' car looks to be a little newer, and it says 2/19/1975, so I'd put the 50' car in the late 60's. Athearn always had a bit of a fixation on making all the different santa fe boxcars and reefers, so I'm told. The FGE 50' car could use a bit of a cleaning and it's missing some stirrups, but those reefers always clean up real nice. I believe I have 4 or 5.

Originally posted by PRR 4800 - February 20 2014 :  8:49:48 PM

I do know the little date on the bottom gives away how old it probably is. I have other cars like it that have dates on the bottom too and they are all from the '70's.

-Steve

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Athearn 1633 introduced 3/68, 50' OB reefer, FGE #11432; book notes no later re-issue in this stock number with any changes.


Athearn 5022 introduced 8/67, Santa Fe Chief, in three variants - no end numbers, error car with 86063 on one side and 86065 on the other; and 36110 with end numbers. This car has had it's side number changed, note last digit does not match the others. Presumably the 36110 is a later re-issue.

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Athearn 1633 introduced 3/68, 50' OB reefer, FGE #11432; book notes no later re-issue in this stock number with any changes.


Athearn 5022 introduced 8/67, Santa Fe Chief, in three variants - no end numbers, error car with 86063 on one side and 86065 on the other; and 36110 with end numbers. This car has had it's side number changed, note last digit does not match the others. Presumably the 36110 is a later re-issue.



Originally posted by lvrr325 - February 21 2014 :  05:38:45 AM

Sweet! Thanks for the information!

-Steve

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