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 Posted - January 09 2014 : 2:05:33 PM
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Hello All, I'm looking at a "Crown Models" Texas and Pacific gondola, #19000. Anyone have info on what Crown models was? Looks a lot like a Varney mold. Also, anyone have a clue if 19000 is a valid T&P number for a gon.? Thanks
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Posted - January 09 2014 : 2:40:29 PM
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Adams,
Found this
Posted by dknelson on Tuesday, July 17, 2012 8:24 AM
I remember the Crown line very well (and it is NOT to be confused with the superb Crown brass locomotives of the same era -- the same name was used for the most expensive and very cheapest).
It was actually brought in by Mantua/Tyco but "silently" -- the Mantua name was not used to sell the product. The freight cars were all knock offs of Athearn and made in Hong Kong. I recall for example the four truck flat car was just like Athearn's in appearance (and excessive height compared to the prototype). The Deep Rock tank car also looked just like Athearns (I do not have one at hand but I almost wonder if the car's number was the same). For all I know the parts interchange.
The paint jobs were not bad, no worse than Athearn's, the detail was not bad, but while the trucks were sprung (as were, of course, at one time, Athearn's) the flanges were those cheese cutter things and they did not roll particularly well. Sometimes a bit of flash would cause them to wobble. The one good feature was that they used real screws to fasten the trucks so a replacement was not a difficult task even for a kid.
Dave Nelson
More here http://cs.trains.com/mrr/f/88/t/208173.aspx
Also on Ebay http://www.ebay.com/itm/CROWN-HO-Plastic-40-ft-Gondola-with-load-w-KDs-Sprg-Trucks-T-P-VERY-GOOD-/131086668895
I cannot help with the validity of the 19000 number.
Regards, John ***********
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Posted - January 09 2014 : 2:46:10 PM
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| Thanks for the info! Look at the underside of that one you linked from Ebay--doesn't it look a lot like a Varney? Definitely not an Athearn. (Hopefully this one will be mine in a couple of days!)
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Posted - January 09 2014 : 3:49:09 PM
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Adams,
If it was a knock off, then the design was changed to allow for a single body casting. So no separate frame was part of the design. This could be to save money, or the model used for the copy could have been a Varney. You never know what evil lurks in the minds of men. All of this is conjecture anyway.
Regards, john ***************
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