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 Posted - November 26 2013 : 10:29:38 AM
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Got this Engie today! does anybody know how to install Kadee couplers on it? - Erich
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Posted - November 26 2013 : 12:15:13 PM
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Always check Kadee's site. No diagram, tho.
http://www.kadee.com/conv/hocc_penn_line.htm
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Posted - November 26 2013 : 12:20:30 PM
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| ok ! Thanks Nelson!
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Posted - November 26 2013 : 12:53:37 PM
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Nice score Erich!
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Posted - November 26 2013 : 4:48:42 PM
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thank You Sean! From The view of Europe
it realy is! -Erich
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Posted - November 26 2013 : 4:55:25 PM
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| you are right there erich,bit like hens teeth over here ken
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Posted - November 26 2013 : 4:59:39 PM
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quote:you are right there erich,bit like hens teeth over here ken
Originally posted by catfordken - November 26 2013 : 4:55:25 PM
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Yes Sir! ;-)
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Posted - November 26 2013 : 5:08:26 PM
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I myself has one. Kadee's would be stubborn to install. Will have to use a die grinder and a file at most if I'm not mistaking. I just re-assemble mine and un-warp the gear cover!
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Posted - November 26 2013 : 5:18:05 PM
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Those are rare as hen's teeth here in America even, or at least the shows I've been to. Always on the lookout for one. I'm sure I could shoehorn kadees in somehow.
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Posted - November 26 2013 : 5:22:02 PM
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| hi PRR 4800,if you think the d2 is rare there try and find a d1,they are mega rare,ken
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Posted - November 26 2013 : 9:28:30 PM
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I believe this is the one they call the Midget, supposedly one was in the Penn Line president's office, he had a 50 cent piece and a piece of rail on the outside on his desk, and had a button on his desk, when a visitor pressed it, the little midget would run around the 50 cent piece, it was able to turn that tightly. THAT would be fun to reproduce! 
I also have a couple of these, they are sought after, and bring good money on Ebay. They DO look difficult to put a Kadee in, that's for sure.
This isn't mine, just a picture I took of the kit version.
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Posted - November 26 2013 : 10:11:28 PM
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Here are a few of my D1s & D2s.
Mine are more like rabbits than hens...
Here are a couple more that I have tooo:
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Posted - November 26 2013 : 11:44:48 PM
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quote:Here are a few of my D1s & D2s.
Mine are more like rabbits than hens...
posted by Mustangs_n_Trains - November 26 2013 : 10:11:28 PM[/right] [/i]
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Woooooow.....amazing amount you have collected, Sean !
Another one like this is by Gilbert, I have one of those as well, looks very similar to the D2 diesel Midget by Penn Line. Probably a copy of the same model.
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Posted - November 27 2013 : 07:13:00 AM
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| Gilbert's comes in two versions, one with side rods and a counterweight, then a simplified one. I picked up the first one at a show a while back for $20. The Penn Line I have one complete and one shell and those are the only two I've seen in years.
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Posted - November 27 2013 : 8:20:39 PM
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quote:I believe this is the one they call the Midget, supposedly one was in the Penn Line president's office, he had a 50 cent piece and a piece of rail on the outside on his desk, and had a button on his desk, when a visitor pressed it, the little midget would run around the 50 cent piece, it was able to turn that tightly. THAT would be fun to reproduce!
Originally posted by AMC_Gremlin_GTÂ -Â November 26 2013Â :Â 9:28:30 PM
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Found it!
http://www.hoseeker.org/pennline/pennlinehistory/early1.html
I have to build one of these, I even have the morgan dollar for it. Just no stinkin' Midget loco!
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Posted - November 27 2013 : 8:30:01 PM
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Can I has one? pretty please?
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Posted - November 27 2013 : 8:36:56 PM
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Make that two! I want one!! ..............so bad..............and Sean knows that
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Posted - November 28 2013 : 05:01:40 AM
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mine,and i want a d1 to go with it ken
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Posted - November 28 2013 : 09:29:46 AM
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Nice Penn Line switchers too guys! but how to get a coupler on it ? Striped it down
and found found two holes in the front and one at the back. - Erich
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Posted - November 28 2013 : 11:04:25 AM
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quote:
That is a fascinating article on the history of Penn Line. Interesting reading.
http://tycodepot.com/
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 Posted - November 29 2013 : 11:19:45 AM
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cool history I'd like to find the 4-4-4-4 & the Crusader hehe 
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Posted - November 29 2013 : 11:27:14 AM
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| would`nt we all ben,$1200 for a crusader is well out of my reach,ken
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Posted - November 29 2013 : 1:01:40 PM
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OK no Kadee's then. to much modifcations on the shell! - Erich
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Posted - November 29 2013 : 1:11:49 PM
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quote:wouldn't we all ben,$1200 for a crusader is well out of my reach,ken
Originally posted by catfordken - November 29 2013 : 11:27:14 AM
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yeah mine too But I'll still look for them anyway
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Posted - November 29 2013 : 1:15:31 PM
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| hope you got good eyesight then ben
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Posted - November 29 2013 : 1:54:17 PM
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quote:hope you got good eyesight then ben
Originally posted by catfordken - November 29 2013 : 1:15:31 PM
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yeah I do since I can see things close up instead of far away like some people are hehe
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Posted - November 29 2013 : 2:02:46 PM
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| Thank You Ken and Ben for getting My post burn! - Erich
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Posted - November 29 2013 : 2:50:22 PM
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| hi erich what is is wrong ken
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Posted - November 29 2013 : 3:56:49 PM
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Hi Ken! there is nothing wrong. but an accurate picture as Kadee couplers are mounted on your D2 would have been helpful. I feel a little left out. that's all. but I've tried to make it a fun. need now no more picture, because I already realiced that it is better to take other couplings.
Just jocking! Cheers Erich
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Posted - November 29 2013 : 5:26:04 PM
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| sorry erich,my error,let me know if you change your mind ken
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Posted - November 29 2013 : 9:49:44 PM
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| I read somewhere that Crusader production was under 700; combine that with pot metal fatigue and there's probably not many intact ones left.
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Posted - November 30 2013 : 01:18:33 AM
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Erich, here is the #38 coupler Kadee recommends: http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/page38.htm
Judging by the instructions, all the modifications are made to the coupler draft gear box and not the opening in the loco's pilot. Looks like just a matter of narrowing it down till it fits.
I think the narrow pockets were originally designed for loop & hooks.
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Posted - November 30 2013 : 11:48:27 AM
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Thank you Nelson! but there is no way to use a Kadee coupler on the D2 without modifying the loco body ! the coupler alone does not fit in the narrow slot!
will use this couplers now, maker unknown to me! - Erich
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Posted - November 30 2013 : 5:57:33 PM
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Erich ; that is a automatic Model Die Casting coupler. Only couples to another MDC one. KD made a similar coupler that would work.
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Posted - December 01 2013 : 08:55:45 AM
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Thank you Frank for information!
Unfortunately One broke During Installation.
Now i use a Varney Plastic coupler at The back!
Wounder which One of The kadee's is
Similar to The MDC couplers? - Erich
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Posted - December 05 2013 : 5:28:12 PM
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Erich, those are similar to Kadee #4's, which unfortunately are no longer made and aren't easy to find. http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/page4.htm
I'll check my LHS since they have lots of old stock.
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Posted - December 05 2013 : 10:01:56 PM
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& now the real thing in 3foot gauge!
ok its not exact & its a Plymouth
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Posted - December 05 2013 : 11:46:21 PM
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Here's the Whitcomb prototype at the Whippany RR Museum.
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Posted - December 06 2013 : 01:00:47 AM
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Nelson, get to work on the #4039!!
I love the Whippany Railway Museums Whitcomb. Why don't they use (restore?) it?
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Posted - December 06 2013 : 01:48:00 AM
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You mean this little bugger?
I'm blogging from inside the smokebox.
Why don't they use (restore?) it?
Lack of funds. Personally, I'd rather see the Morris County Central (ex-Southern) 385 Consolidation put back in service. It used to pull excursions there in the 60's and was the first steamer I got to see in action.
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Posted - December 11 2013 : 10:32:52 AM
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quote:Erich, those are similar to Kadee #4's, which unfortunately are no longer made and aren't easy to find. http://www.kadee.com/htmbord/page4.htm
I'll check my LHS since they have lots of old stock.
Originally posted by NickelPlate759Â -Â December 05 2013Â :Â 5:28:12 PM
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Yes Nelson it´s this one I need.
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but for now I instaled a Varney coupler a the rear and a MDC on front. the will couple to Kadee´s but have no automatic funktion! - Erich
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Posted - December 11 2013 : 11:41:28 AM
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quote:You mean this little bugger?
I'm blogging from inside the smokebox.
Why don't they use (restore?) it?
Lack of funds. Personally, I'd rather see the Morris County Central (ex-Southern) 385 Consolidation put back in service. It used to pull excursions there in the 60's and was the first steamer I got to see in action.
Originally posted by NickelPlate759Â -Â December 06 2013Â :Â 01:48:00 AM
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she's actually been under restoration for the better part of the last 2 years now.
The new boiler is pretty close to being done and the volunteers have been rebuilding the running gear.
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