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I bought this shell a my local hobby shop a while ago, it was on consignment in the discount bin. Then not too long ago, while looking at tony cook's train resource site, I saw pemco made a similar phase 1 amtrak shell. However, pemco only made 1 engine, and also the shell I have has a different pilot and steps. The shell is identical to the life-like f40ph but according to the same site life-like never made a f40ph in phase 1 paint, and such an engine never existed on the prototype either. Does anyone have any info on this shell?

Oh a word of note, the lettering is not backwards in real life, it is just the camera on my computer.

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Looks like a Athearn FP45 Amtrak shell.

A F40PH would be shorter....
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Looks like a Athearn FP45 Amtrak shell.

A F40PH would be shorter....

Originally posted by AF Kid - November 11 2013 :  11:11:59 PM



I don't think the terrible picture did justice to the length. It is about 7 1/2 inches long, not much longer than any of my 4-axle locos. Sorry about the confusion, I think the photo software distorted the picture.
Here's a better picture


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That's better... I was beginning to feel dyslexic.

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That's better... I was beginning to feel dyslexic.

Originally posted by NickelPlate759 - November 11 2013 :  11:35:15 PM



thanks! that looks better...

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While on the topic of pemco's f40ph...

it appears there may be more than one that had been created:http://www.ebay.com/itm/HO-Amtrak-Train-Engine-/291010341933?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item43c1916c2d
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FWIW, there were four F40PHs made that I'm aware of:

Life-Like
Pemco
Bachmann
Walthers Trainline

It's possible the Trainline unit originated in someone else's tooling, the Trainline FA started as the Train Miniature FA, the Trainline GP9 shell dates to the Cox unit, I don't think any of the tooling they used was original.

Both Bachmann and LL have multuple drive incarnations, the Bachmann was sold as a Spectrum most recently.

The shell has no numbers or markings inside?
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FWIW, there were four F40PHs made that I'm aware of:

Life-Like
Pemco
Bachmann
Walthers Trainline

It's possible the Trainline unit originated in someone else's tooling, the Trainline FA started as the Train Miniature FA, the Trainline GP9 shell dates to the Cox unit, I don't think any of the tooling they used was original.

Both Bachmann and LL have multuple drive incarnations, the Bachmann was sold as a Spectrum most recently.

The shell has no numbers or markings inside?

Originally posted by lvrr325 - November 12 2013 :  9:49:34 PM



As far as I can tell there are no markings inside.
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Dat's a pemco shell. They're the only ones who were silly enough to paint it in phase 1

On the topic of Trainline FA's, I bought a pair off ebay once only to discover they sure didn't LOOK like trainline... turns out they're the original Train Miniature ones, superdetailed in custom PRR paint. Just learned that last week

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Dat's a pemco shell. They're the only ones who were silly enough to paint it in phase 1

On the topic of Trainline FA's, I bought a pair off ebay once only to discover they sure didn't LOOK like trainline... turns out they're the original Train Miniature ones, superdetailed in custom PRR paint. Just learned that last week

Originally posted by PRR 4800 - November 13 2013 :  6:20:12 PM



Yeah pemco made a phase 1 shell. However the pilot and steps on my model look like life like, and pemco's f40ph was in a different number...leading me to believe this is a life like paint prototype or something.
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