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 Posted - October 06 2013 : 11:45:37 PM
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Well, as an avid armchair modeler (though my uncomfortable desk chair at school has no armrests to call it an arm chair), I can't help but wonder what I'll actually do with all the parts I've been acquiring online.
I've recently been reading up on Alco T-6's, and wondering why it is that Alco went out of business. The US coast guard seems to like the 251 power plant, because they still use them in cutters to this day!
I'm interested in making a T-6 for my still unnamed railroad. I'm thinking an AHM rs-11 shell would make a good starting point, and if I chop it down I could mount it on an AHM 'ALCO 1000' body (really an S2 look-alike), though an athearn sw7 looks like a better drive unit to sit upon. If I could find a cheap junker Atlas engine, maybe that'd work too.
AHM's ALCO 1000 and RS2 shared the vertical 3 pole motor and power truck assemblies, but did AHM (model power, life like or other) make the ALCO 1000 with a horizontally mounted motor at any point?
Any ideas on feasibility? I'm not sure I'll get to it, but it's a thought
http://donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/dr0203/am18.jpg
Not my picture, but this is what a T-6 looks like for anyone whose never seen one
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Posted - October 06 2013 : 11:59:52 PM
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| It's a cool looking locomotive. Dig that cab. And a great color scheme. I don't know anything about these "modern" (what years were these in use?) locomotives, but I'd encourage the project just to see the photos as it comes along. Regards, Barry
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Posted - October 07 2013 : 12:10:44 AM
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Harrison,
Any good side shots of the T-6? Specifically drawings to "line" up thought of what to start with?
As far as I can see, try a RS long hood, and a Centry hood end for the end of the nose. And a ALCO switcher cab, from any of them would work.....Fitted to an Athearn frame, since your making the shell anyway, fit it to a good running frame!
You got any thoughts?
~John
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Posted - October 07 2013 : 09:40:56 AM
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There used to be a T-6 at the Western Maryland Scenic Ry. in Cumberland, Maryland. It was in WM black paint. You may look at their website and find some more pictures.
Randy
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Posted - October 07 2013 : 1:59:38 PM
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I wasn't sure, but it turns out the 1000 did get the horizontal motor in the late 70's, though like their other 4 wheeled switchers it still only had one powered truck.
http://www.hoseeker.org/AHMRivarossiassembly/ahmbuildersbiblepage098.jpg
I'm guessing they weren't long enough for the motor plus both sets of universals. They needed a shorter switcher motor like Athearn had.
I've always really liked the inset angled numberboards on the RS-11, and I like them on the T-6, too.
The Tyco Depot
Edited by - NickelPlate759 on October 07 2013 2:06:02 PM
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Posted - October 07 2013 : 2:21:53 PM
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Randy,
You know, I believe your right! Does it still remain at the WM Scenic? I have been there a LOT in the past few years on my vacations to see what Dave has been up too......He and I go way back but that's a whole other story, for another time. But anyway, I had not seen it in a bit from my past few visits, actually, so, I wonder if it hasn't been traded off for parts for that GP30 that burned up or what? Maybe in hiding when I was there? I don't know.....Which, reminds me, I will be modeling at least one WM GP30, to match the in operation one, they have, along with the RSD-3 they also had at one time, which I think was part of the 734 buy.... they either sold the RSD-3 for money to buy the 2-8-0, or was part of the trade, I can't remember which.... BUT, I do know the RSD-3 disappeared in around about the same time as the 2-8-0 came onto the property....
Nelson,
I have to agree!!! The angled number boards of that T-6 makes it look like aroad engine to only realize its a switcher, and that gives or makes it "different" in that way as a lot of times, on all the other manufacturers, the switchers looked absolutely nothing like their road engine counterparts, in this way ALCO made them have some sort of resemblance......Altho, your reading this, I was never an ALCO fan, I like them, OK, but I am fond of Baldwins......comes from the steam era.....even tho, they never lasted long into the diesel world! But, their diesels for the most part had an interesting design behind them!
~John
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Posted - October 07 2013 : 3:45:45 PM
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I was at Cumberland in the fall of '06; so that's 7 years ago. My wife surprised me with a ticket to ride in the cab to Frostburg and back.
The next day we went to Romney, WVa to ride the Potomac Eagle.
Randy
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Posted - October 07 2013 : 9:21:45 PM
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Does anyone know how the AHM C-415 compares in length to a switcher? It looks like it's just a little bit too long to pose as the frame of a T-6 (yet also seemed different from an RS-2 locomotive frame.
Perhaps the hoods would be of some use for such a kitbash?
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Posted - October 08 2013 : 08:02:20 AM
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Harrison,
I've had a couple of the C-415's and the length of those cabs are a bit short, BUT the overall locomotive is about the length of a GP40......BUT, if cut right, you might be able to get the length from both ends if one is butted to the other.....A single hood isn't going to work! BUT good thought of getting that for the T-6.
~John
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Posted - October 08 2013 : 11:13:48 AM
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T6 Drawings are hard to find.
Hope This helps, John *********************************
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Posted - October 10 2013 : 12:12:57 AM
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John,
That's a good call! You know, looking at that diagram you may get away with a RS2 or RS-3 long hood, cut down, slightly to get the length to fit to a lower sill that's made custom to fit say an Athearn SW-7 or S-12 frame, with motor, trucks and even flywheels! I myself, have another trick to get a diagram....(Went to check, nothing their either!)
Wasworth a try, where ever that diagram came from its a good one on here, I've come up short in the few laces I thought one may have been had/gotten.
~John
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