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here you go ben,first stage of pgw caboose,stripping an atlas caboose,ken

first stage is the bit i hate most,with bad eye sight the masking i find the hardest,and also the most time consuming

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yay! Neat caboose too
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Cool Ken. Keep the pictures coming as the project moves along. I dig seeing what other folks are doing and how they're doing it. Thanks. Barry
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What kind of tape are you using Ken?
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standard 1 inch masking tape 50c a roll stuff,i used for doing full sixed cars,got to get some low tack ken
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here you go ben,first stage of pgw caboose,stripping an atlas caboose,ken

first stage is the bit i hate most,with bad eye sight the masking i find the hardest,and also the most time consuming


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Nice work, Ken - maybe I'll post a photo of one of my S scale Santa Fe style cabooses for the group to throw brickbats at. In your case, you can throw an alarm clock; that's what you throw at a cat on a fence in the middle of the night anyway, isn't it?

Incidentally, my late sister once traced our ancestry back to english royalty, but I've never turned up on the Queen's will. Maybe if the designated ancestor hadn't run off with a coachman. . .


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not a teaser,battery is flat on camera,ken

caboose,with rest,was gonna come closer but battery went

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went? where did it go?
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That will be a NICE looking caboose when done Ken, just because its an Atlas center cupola......Those were well liked in the North East USA!!!!
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to be honest john,not pleased with it,green black is boring,needs a bit of life,zing or something,ken
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Ken,
you mean in the painting of it "life"???? Green and black after a while does get a bit boring, anything with the same 2 colors, over and over does!

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yep,its boring,needs something,will be solved,just needs thought ken
marker lights/tail lights.antenna,safety paint on stairs etc,couple of figures standing on platform etc
lots of bad spray work,crap tape,but my fault for not using a good one


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Ken,
It should have window "frames" why not add aluminum paint to them to show it had been "updated" to a slightly newer form and have the windows replaced? Which painting just the window frames will add a slight bit more dimension....I'd also suggest some window screens, but those might be difficult to make, (I have a way) but to sure you can get the type stuff, on the other side of the big pond, but its almost like nylons, only has a larger open airy-ness to it.....AND its white-ish, that can be stained (sort of) with acrylic silver paint.....OR blackened much the same way with water based black paint.....WITHOUT, clogging the texture of that material.

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the silver window,seems a good idea john,when you say screens ant pics to show me,or do you mean this,ken

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Sadly, I don't have pictures of the window screens but, when I do, I'll be sure to post......I have yet to make any but I found a material to make them from and have to put my work where my brain is.....

Your picture above is what I would know as "Expanded Steel"

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Paint looks good Ken. Did you spray that? Rattle can or air brush?
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or do what BN did to their cabooses Cover the lower windows up with steel
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hi barry car spray can
hi ben all ideas are welcome,ken
have decided to pick window frames out in red

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I just need to get off my lazy back side and try to get some stuff done I just have no confidence in myself. Catfordken the work you do is so far above anything I could ever dream of doing myself.
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hi GPA_Andy,believe me i am not the best here,em-1,Ron,redwoods,ray,frank(toptrain) and a lot more have achieved better results,the worst enemy is impatience,find yourself some cheap bits and practice,but most of all have fun,ken
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Andy, I have to agree with Ken! All it takes is some practice. Find yourself something "junk" and spray it, and continue to do so till your comfortable doing it, and the more you do, the feel of it will become easier as time passes. Some of us, its second nature....

You working with a spray can, or an air brush? I may have some pointers on either as I use both!

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hi barry car spray can
hi ben all ideas are welcome,ken
have decided to pick window frames out in red

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Ken,
What red you have planned? I ask as that should look really good on the green car as a "stand out" detail, and will (providing the shade of red) look like a treated steel frame around the window that will represent, replacement.....Interestingly enough as it is, but that's actually a good "weathering" additive! Even tho, its not a tone of sort, you know?

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hi john i think this kind of red ken

or maybe this one

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Thanks Ken, John
I am still trying to figure out what I want to model I grew up in the Cleveland Ohio area and the Pennsy ran threw the middle of town. But I also like a lot of the fantasy stuff TYCO and others put out in the 70's & 80"s. I'm working on a string of silver tankers with Silver Streak C430's on the head end and Caboose.
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Ken,
That red circle would look GREAT but then looking and imagining them both, would stand out as well. both good choices none-the-less! The round circle of red, looks more like a red metal treatment "primer" and the bright red, looks like a paint type bright red, and not a primer....

Andy, well you at least got an idea of what your looking to model. Any time frame or era?

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got this with a horrendous paint job,bright yellow.red and green,so am using as a test bed,toying with colours,ken
as is at the moment

crew car

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Ken,
Did you remove the cupola? I have the same car sides (I think) Mine are die cast metal.....looks good, can't wait to see the other one with the red windows, or are you "toying" with that thought on the outside braced model?

And with the "crew car" making a MOW train too?

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hi john,i have a box full of broken kits,spare roof,bodys etc,the next to cars will be in the usual colours(yawn)top will be tool car,bottom wages car,ken
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You sound like me Ken, I mean really, all the parts... I just can't help myself at times, specially at a good price or such yard sale garage sale, show, you name it I'm ALWAYS on the look!

I tell ya tho, I'm seemingly, looking for those metal handrails you pictured in the one pic that has a "crook" in them to stick out or seemingly to stick out or protrude from the body lines to offer a depth grab from the end of the car end.

Gonna be green too? (yawn, I hear that I haven't been sleeping well the past 2 days!)

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hi john can you remember what pic goes with the handrails you mention,ken
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hi john can you remember what pic goes with the handrails you mention,ken
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as we are such a small railroad,and with economy as it is,a bit of cost cutting,might leave us no choice but to combine the wage car with a caboose,and end up with this,a cab-over-wage car
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hey here is what I was saying about covering the lower windows on the caboose

oops got my finger next to the lens
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thanks ben,its worth keeping in mind ken
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you're welcome
I think NA railroads started to do that in the 1960s or 1970s cause of vandalizim
I've even seen a pic of a whole caboose covered up
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Covered Windows were for safety. The Feds required special safety glass before the end of the caboose era, due to projectiles thrown, or shot at the train. Locomotive have the same requirements, thus steel plates were cheaper and used where possible.



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well that renders that useless to me,health and safety was something yet to happen on my railroad,and as a manager never if i get my way,profits first,safety at your cost,as per railroad mentality of the day lol
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Ken,
This is the handrail:



Ben, & Ken, they blanket out the widows more to safety then vandalism.....

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this is what i have decided will be the caboose mow colors ken
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OOOOO! I likes this ken & caboose looks good too
Or van as it was called in Canada
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THOSE wavy handrails are from that same Silver Streak caboose on the COTW thread a couple weeks ago. They're the end handrails. Want them too? I may not be using those either.
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hi conner,if you are referring to ones outlined,it was john (em-1 that wanted them ken
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Yeah, forgot to press quote... he's been wanting a few parts which I happen to have to spare lately.
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