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 Posted - October 06 2012 : 7:44:28 PM
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Well, sort of. Reading his post on reworking his Tenshodo NYC Hudson brought back loads of memories of my first brass engine, which was the same model but I think mine had the boxpok drivers. So, I went out and won myself one on ebay today. Not the steal he got his for but a good price in my book. Needs a little TLC like his but nothing I cant deal wtih in short order. Here is a pic from the auction. She should be here first part of this week. Mike
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Posted - October 06 2012 : 11:37:14 PM
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Mike,
AWESOME model!
I too, blame people I'm around for a "purchase" push so to speak, a friend of mine has N scale on his HO scale layout for forced perspective, and I blame him for getting me hooked on N scale......LOL Call it hobby peer pressure!? 
As for the Hudson, NICE find, looks to be in good shape too!
Closest thing I have to that.. is a Rivarossi 4-6-4 J class NYC.....Sadly I sold it to a guy involved in the NYC Historical Society.....
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Posted - October 06 2012 : 11:40:34 PM
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Its catford ken's fault.
With all that bling he likes flashing, it usually is. 
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Posted - October 07 2012 : 12:06:00 AM
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My very first NYC hudson was a nice boxed one I got at a show when I was around 12 yrs old. Ran fine, a bit of a jack rabbit off the line but smooth. However with a full Athearn NYC heavyweight train she would stall on the grade at the local club, 2.5% with an "S" curve in the middle. She would loose it about halfway thru the final curve of the "S". Fast forward a year later after I got my Tenshodo, still running the factory open frame motor, just cleaned and lubed, she walked the same train up that hill at a scale 40mph and started accelerating to our clubs 60mph passenger train speed as soon as the frist couple heavyweights topped the grade. The lighted headlight and side numberboards look good to on this model. It came down to the Tenshodo and a LMB thats on ebay right now. The LMB might have a bit more detail, but the Tenshodo has some sentimental pull for me, so thats what I bought. THe LMB is at 149 with no bids and ends tomorrow if anybody is looking for a nice boxed hudson. The one I bought is listed as not running, but thats a simple problem for my shop. Old brass is my speciality for repair, pretty much handle all the local modelers brass repair/repower/dcc work as the other tech here in town wont touch brass. Where as I prefer to work on brass, so much easier to take appart compared to the plastic stuff, espicaly steam. Oh yeah, I had almost totaly forgotten about that Tenshodo I had years ago till I read Ken's post, then the memories started flooding back, it was a fun trip to say the least, hope to relive it a few more times later this week! Mike
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Posted - October 07 2012 : 09:01:29 AM
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Mike,glad you got one same as mine,you have 5427 and i have 5428,just thought i would share a bit o me bling and keep you company,ken
these go on ebay for reasonable amounts,weigh a ton,pull very well,ken
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Posted - October 07 2012 : 10:04:22 AM
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There was a primo one on yesterday, boxed and in like new condition with a buy it now of $175!!! If I only had the $$ I would have bought it, needless to say it sold fast. The Mohawk and one of thier 4-8-4 Niagara class engines. Really thinking hard about putting my around the room benchwork back up and a double track loop mainline with a couple of industries. NYC had a nice double track line into Indianapolis back in the day (Big Four Route) and I have several pics of Hudsons hauling arse with a crack passenger train or reefer express. Several are winter shots, so wish someone would come up with an easy and cheap way to model a light dusting of snow on the ground, about all we get before Christmas. I would set the era just before the war, about a week before Christmas with packed passenger trains and the traffic build up as we prepare for war that will eventualy reach us before the next Christmas. So the week before christmas, 1940. It would give me a nice excuse to use the beautifull 3 stall Suydam roundhouse I had built for me, its all weathered inside and out, has interior lighting. Just needs the base with inspection pits made up. Indiana is known for its own NYC crack passenger train, the James Whitcomb Riley. The line divirged north out of Indy and is still known as the route of the Riley. NYC ran pasesnger specials from Union Station out to Speedway for the 500 race in May every year back then. My wife grew up right along the water level route in Lake City/Girard, PA. Granted it was the PC/Conrail era. We used to eat dinner at the Lake City Diner, which is the old NYC depot as stacker trains race by at 60mph. So I guess the love for the NYC runs a bit deep in me, despite growing up around ex NKP tracks here in Kokomo. Great pics with some nice bling! Mike
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Posted - October 07 2012 : 10:49:57 AM
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hi mike i have a d&h k-62,which is close to the Niagara,but if one pops i will be there,but at moment,have had to hold back,pension delays,ken
now this in my opinion is bling lol
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Posted - October 07 2012 : 11:12:10 AM
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That has lots of Bling!! There is another nice Mohawk on fleabay but at $350. Unfortunatly not in my budget right now. I have a few things for sale that I cant ship so they are on the local craigslist, but not selling either. Maybe Santa will bring me some train money, or some repair work will come into my train backshop to raise some funds for a Mohawk. Mike
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Posted - October 07 2012 : 11:15:55 AM
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| i got most of my locos cheap,because i did not rush,and waited to last minute on the ones i got ken
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Posted - October 07 2012 : 11:36:16 AM
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I got alittle bling too, but nothing like those! one B&O EM-1 2-8-8-4, a B&O Q-4b 2-8-2, a USRA 0-6-0 to become a B&O D-30.
And I'm awaiting a SD7/9 as well.
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Posted - October 07 2012 : 11:42:33 AM
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Now that EM-1 has some serious bling to it, just hidden under a beautiful paint job! Gotta love any vintage brass that is more than a glass case piece. Used to love it when I would have on of my brass engines running at a public display and someone would ask what brand that was. Kind of feels good to say, "its brass by xxxxxx". Then they would come back and say they thought brass ran horrible and was just for collectors. Opens the whole door to get another modeler to consider a brass model if they are able to do a little tuning or pay me or someone to do it for them. Mike
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Posted - October 08 2012 : 2:09:59 PM
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just a little info on the 2 nyc locos,the mohawk weighs 1022 grams,hudson weighs 898 grams without box,ken
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Posted - October 08 2012 : 2:20:36 PM
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Man that Mohawk looks nice!! I will find one in time. Watching ebay like a hawk right now. There is one there, but its a little bit overpriced for the current market. Back out to the garage to work on my garden tractor repowering project. Mike
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Posted - October 08 2012 : 2:57:19 PM
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another bit of bling,that i would recommend,ken
KEY SAMHONGSA
LMB KMT
BOTH BY CUSTON BRASS NJ NYC NE2
all the above locos where sold during my divorce,but i will get them again,the last 2 will be done as u3 switchers
gem usra
tenshodo usra
thats all the brass i got or had for nyc folks
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Posted - October 08 2012 : 4:07:01 PM
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I used to have a Tenshodo USRA 0-8-0, should have never sold that one, it ran so smooth and quiet. Mike
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Posted - October 08 2012 : 4:10:06 PM
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| great little pullers,ken
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Posted - October 09 2012 : 2:30:03 PM
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Yes they are, the one I used to have, now belongs to another club member that uses her to switch out the coal mine. The mine featuers a working flood loader and cars are acutaly loaded with coal, we now use black beauty brand sand blasting sand, the dust from the pulvarized coal was getting into motors and causing electriclal issues. The Mohawk on ebay right now is a bit strong on the price, I send him a message to see if the price is flexable enough for what I am willing to give for one of those. Mike
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Posted - October 12 2012 : 4:13:42 PM
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Here are some new pics, engine came yesterday, put her thru the back shop today, needed valve gear adjusted, motor was stuck and gear box was full of goo. Cleaned and adjusted everything, instead of totaly repainted the whole tender(paint finish was still good) I just blacked out the old NYC lettering. Once dry I redecaled her with Microscale decals. I also added the NYC logo and road number to the headlight plate and data on the rear of the tender. The decal set didnt have the correct "J3" lettering for below the road number. My PFM history book says this is more representive of the J1e class, but the road number puts her in the J3a class. The 5404 is the last of the J1e class according to a NYC roster I looked at. I didnt feel like renumbering her right now. I may in the next few days. You cant tell the tender was redecaled, it came out great. She runs awsome and pulls like an ox. Pictured at the bottom is the LS&MS ten wheeler. Not sure if she will say or get traded off. Kind of out of date by the time the Hudsons were ruling the rails. She does run well and even came with the original bill of sale from Dec 31 1964!! Cost all of 26.50 plus .75 for postage to MN. I cant imagine buying an engine that cheap let alone shipping it for that. Cheers Mike
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Posted - October 12 2012 : 10:01:28 PM
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| I may have to get out my AHM NYC steamer & rephoto it again
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Posted - October 12 2012 : 10:36:39 PM
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Its a shame those AHM Hudsons didnt pull as well as they looked. If someone had only done up a proper drop in can motor kit for those. I have had a couple of them, both standard like my Tenshodo and the streamlined one. I did renumber mine to a correct J1e road number, 5404, last of the class by the roster I went by. Still really thinking about making the layout duel era, LSMS 1910 and NYC 1940. Keep the terrain just general thru the Lake City/Girard PA area where my wife is from. Trying to find pics of LS&MS freight locos, wonder if this one would pass for one of them. Maybe do up some labelle coaches for the ten wheeler and some Rivarossi or Athearn heavy weights for the Hudson. Mike
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Posted - October 13 2012 : 08:16:51 AM
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hey cadet pwr...who makes this 2-8-0???
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Posted - October 13 2012 : 08:28:43 AM
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That is an old Akane Ma and Pa, poor resemblance to the real Ma and Pa engine when compared to the PFM/United model, but still an affordable slide valve connie. Here is one on fleabay if someone would like to own, not in my budget right at the moment. http://www.ebay.com/itm/vintage-AKANE-brass-HO-gauge-locomotive-and-coal-/190736958484?pt=Model_RR_Trains&hash=item2c68cf0414
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Posted - October 14 2012 : 6:17:39 PM
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Ken, dont know if you have taken the gear box appart, but my Hudson took way to much power to run and would stop abruptly as you throttled down. I took the gear box appart and all the grease was like a rock, making the main gear bind in the gear box. I cleaned it bare using isopropal alcohol and Q-tips. I relubricated the gear box using live steam cylinder oil, has always worked well in my enclosed gear boxes. Prior to this, the Hudson would take half to 3/4 throttle on my old MRC 500 golden throttle pack, now it takes 1/4 throttle to be moving along and creeping below that position. Her speed range is much better, espicaly on the low end. I always do an inital lubrication of the rods and axle bearings, then evaluate the model on the layout before digging deeper. With the age of most of the brass we buy, going thru the gear box is almost a "given" anymore. Those old greases and oils were not as stable as what we use today, many turned to goo or worse as they aged. I just finished an hour run on the hudson, whole train room smells like ozone, and warm oil that those old open frame motors are good for! Mike
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Posted - October 15 2012 : 08:41:08 AM
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| hi mike, I always strip the motors and gearbox`s down,clean and labelle them,more so as they are 60`s locos and those oils were crap,ken
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Posted - October 15 2012 : 10:41:22 AM
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I am sure the oils were state of the art back then for Japan, but they are definatly crap by todays standards and thats putting it politely. You did say your Mohawk will go around 22" curves ok correct? If I can get my 4-6-0 sold and a couple other things, I hope to pick one up soon. Mike
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Posted - October 15 2012 : 1:32:47 PM
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One of the first things I do to any old loco I get is strip the gearing of all lubricants, in fact the entire loco is taken apart and cleaned if needed. Most of the time the motor gets a cleaning too, with brushes and commutator being stripped of oil and polished if necessary.
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Posted - October 15 2012 : 2:12:59 PM
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I always do all of that, but when I first get a piece to work on, be it mine or a repair for a customer. I do a general quick lube of the rods and other exposed bearings, then run the model a short period to evaluate the drive and make notes on other issues that might need addressed while its taken appart. When I am charging by the hour, I try to keep that time spent in the shop as short as possible, then I dont have to charge my customers as much. I have my new Tenshodo GP7 torn down right now. Mike
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