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 Posted - January 24 2007 : 2:59:19 PM
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hi tony i know you are a busy man,but to use mere mortals one of the most confusing parts of collecting are the above mentioned variations,what i feel is needed is a visible photo by photo section regarding this,would be right at home on resourses page,i for one would be most grateful,and am sure there are others,what say you,kind illustrious being on high,ken
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Posted - January 24 2007 : 3:25:16 PM
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Second that,
no acts of obesiance to make though![:D]
-G.
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Posted - January 24 2007 : 7:12:21 PM
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Ken
Here are motors used for tyco engines 1975 and up. Also in the pictures below is the mantua motor used in early tycos and all mantua diesels. The only differences in tyco's are the side frames. All have the same truck that screws on bottom of casting. On alco 630's you have 3 drive wheels and all alco's(tyco motors only) have a dummy axle in center.
picture of alco 630 motor with trailing pick up. this motor also used on GG1 locomotives
close up of motor and gears. this one has new drive bands from calmet
same motor with alco side frames. only difference is dummy axle in center.
bottom view of all alco driven locomotives. notice dummy axle in center
mantu mu motor. found on early tyco/mantua and mantua 430's and GP20's
view of mu motor from mantua.(this one is out of a GP20)
side view of mantua mu. on bottom of truck is two center gear driven axles. Rivets hold truck and wheels to frame as motor is in center.
picture of tyco motor casting for front and rear truck casting. These are the same for all tyco powered diesels.
left=mantua rear power pick-up-metal tabs to mount to shell. Right=tyco-all-rear power pickup for motor
picture of alco 630 side frames-alco 430 and tyco f unit-top of pic.-- motor is same for all.
picture of tyco motor with winding and magnets.
gear side of tyco motor with out wheels or dummy axle.
630 motor mounts. left photo is motor and right is rear truck mount. they are different as front has a wider tab.
view of 630 mounts and alco 430 mounts. The top right mount is also used on f units-GP20's and all tyco alco 430's. It is also used on the rear trucks also of f units. The rear 430 mount is in top left of photo
Edited by - Brianstyco on January 24 2007 8:46:16 PM
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Posted - January 24 2007 : 7:23:52 PM
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| hi brian thats great of you to do this unlike most of you tycos are as rare over here as a dinner for 2 on the titanic,you can see them everywhere so it will really help me will put this in my favourites again many thanks ken
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Posted - January 25 2007 : 2:14:57 PM
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Over the years I've found many sideframes that were glued to the mantua mu-2 motor/truck have fallen off. Any suggestions as to what kind of glue can be used to re-attach?
Also, I've purchased a 1970's era brass locomotive (SW-1500 as I recall.) that suffered from the same problem. The only difference between the brass model and the tycos was the brass sideframe was soldered on. Apparently thirty to forty years ago, there wasn't much difference between high and low end!
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Posted - January 25 2007 : 5:38:04 PM
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DT,
I use a product called JB Weld,or JB Quick to reattatch side frames.
This stuff works very well,and is made for the automotive repair trade.
Just make sure the surfaces you are fixing are free of oil,and grease.
Carl T.
President of the Cape James Terminal RR.
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Posted - January 25 2007 : 8:20:11 PM
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Carl T.,
Thanks for the advice. I'll give it a try!
Frank T.
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Posted - January 26 2007 : 11:54:21 PM
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Hey Brian,
Did you ever see Aurora slot cars from the 60's. I think the Tyco armature looks identical. Anybody else feel the same?
Alco Fan
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Posted - January 27 2007 : 12:13:27 AM
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quote:Hey Brian,
Did you ever see Aurora slot cars from the 60's. I think the Tyco armature looks identical. Anybody else feel the same?
Originally posted by Alco Fan - January 26 2007 : 10:54:21 PM
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yes i have seen them. They may be more than likely.
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Posted - January 27 2007 : 01:49:16 AM
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I noted that to Brian in a PM recently. It's exactly right. The semi-circular magnets; one was Red and the other grey.
-Gareth
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Posted - February 06 2007 : 10:57:43 AM
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| Brian, those photos are great...My question is what is the difference between those pictured and the Power Torque motor...Got pictures ? They look so much alike...Thanks...IAMFISH.
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