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 Posted - July 26 2012 : 11:41:10 AM
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got this today,straight swap for a matchbox red chevy,got to be my best deal yet,ken
in its original wooden box,its a very early one,all brass gearbox and components
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Posted - July 26 2012 : 12:30:34 PM
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 That was a great deal. I really like the NYC Hudson locomotives. The drivers and rods on your loco look to be in great condition. Really nice details and it's got the valve gear.
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Posted - July 26 2012 : 12:52:50 PM
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hi NC shortlines,just shows what lengths a collector will go to,to get something he needs,the particular Chevy is rare it was a spare i had from the mantua set,so we both got a great deal,yes the tenshodos were great for their drives,only the motors that let them down,open frame,but this ones going to be re motored,ken
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Posted - July 26 2012 : 2:37:23 PM
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That's a real beauty, Ken. I'd make that trade all day long.
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Posted - July 26 2012 : 6:42:57 PM
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these are not easy to find,ken
2 of these sold for $150 last year on evilbay
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Posted - July 26 2012 : 7:48:56 PM
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huh, i have an identical chevy bel air that looks just like that sorta! Mine has flames and no hood so definately not rare like that but still unusual.
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Posted - July 26 2012 : 7:55:54 PM
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quote:
2 of these sold for $150 last year on evilbay
Originally posted by catfordken - July 26 2012 : 6:42:57 PM
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Sheesh! 
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Posted - July 26 2012 : 8:00:52 PM
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| these were released only with the mantua train sets,a total of 2500 worldwide,so i would think any collector would pay a premium for one,ken
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Posted - July 26 2012 : 8:08:42 PM
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Ken, I realize that, but some people will shell out thousands of dollars for a piece of toast. I'm not interested in collector's value. I'm just comparing the more tangible value of relative skill and craftsmanship involved, and there isn't any comparison. That's a pretty crude looking Bel Air, IMO. You definitely got the better end of that deal. 
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Posted - July 26 2012 : 8:19:23 PM
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| hi nelson I totally agree with you,ken
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Posted - July 26 2012 : 9:20:30 PM
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quote:hi nelson I totally agree with you,ken
Originally posted by catfordken - July 26 2012 : 8:19:23 PM
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I'm sure I could dig out a few old Hot Wheels if you want to trade. 
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Posted - July 27 2012 : 11:30:35 AM
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photo to left was yesterday,to right is today,done with a can of car spray ken
just need to get the nyc decals,and find a better way of getting the lead from loco to tender,uses a similar way as the mantua brass locos,a hole and a pin
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Posted - July 27 2012 : 12:10:00 PM
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Great work Ken, what are your plans for the locomotive?
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Posted - July 27 2012 : 12:29:14 PM
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hi gg1 guy,to return it to as near original as possible ken
I have both of these
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Posted - July 27 2012 : 6:16:40 PM
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time for engine overhaul now ken
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Posted - July 27 2012 : 6:59:16 PM
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| Impressive, for the most part I collect TYCO, but you guys are going to make me go off the beaten path and expand my collection.
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Posted - July 27 2012 : 7:14:00 PM
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| gg1-guy, I only starting buying these,firstly because I can get good deals,and secondly I cannot get a good supply of other old locos,on ebay usa brass can be very cheap,and its got great detail,but i still like to revert back to basic locos like tyco to detail and have fun with,if you enjoy what you have,keep having fun its far more important,ken
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Posted - August 06 2012 : 09:30:28 AM
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its getting there a few more touch ups to the body,and its ready to roll,and decals to arrive from usa,ken
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Posted - August 06 2012 : 09:47:45 AM
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| She is looking real good, have you been working pretty steady on it since you got it?
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Posted - August 06 2012 : 09:54:58 AM
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sure have gg1-guy,cleaned and lubed,replaced flexible coupling,re-painted tender,gave it a test run,touched some of the paint work on body by hand rather than re-paint it,few more spots to do ken
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Posted - October 05 2012 : 10:21:14 PM
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Ya left us hanging old chap, how about some pics of her all fixed up and new decals? I am very envious of that old hudson. My very first brass, before I knew what brass was, was a Tenshodo NYC hudson. As a young teen I was a huge and I mean huge NYC fan. Was at one of the larger national chain shows, Great American Train Show to be exact, held every year at the state fair grounds in Indianapolis, Indiana. Was in my full NYC garb, my J3 Hudson T shirt and NYC ball cap. It was me and my dad, walking around. I hadn't found much, a caboose and a couple of buildings when a gentleman walked up to us while we at cheese burgers at the food court and handed me a box that said Tenshodo NYC Hudson on it, silver, 2 seperate boxes one for engine and one for the tender. Told us he had been trying to sell it and none of the dealers wanted to give him anything for it as they didnt wanna mess with brass. He had no children to give it to and seen me in my NYC outfit and said it was mine if I wanted it. Talk about making my day, no making my year! I took her home, she didnt wanna run well at first but I was well versed in dealing with my Mantua 2-8-2, so I took it appart, new lube, new model airplane fuel line to connect motor to gear box, and a good wheel cleaning on both engine and tender and away she went. I ran the wheels of that engine till cars, girls and helping at a friends farm took my attention away as a late teen and well in to my 20's. She fell victim to me getting deep into postwar Lionel in my late 20's when I came back to trains. Seeing your progress makes me really want to find another one and fix her up and keep her till I gone. Hope she turned out nice, last pics looked great so far. Those old Tenshodos might not been the most detailed, but for what they lacked in detail, they were mechanicly bulletproof and pulled well. Just typing this is bringing back a flood of memories of my early years in HO scale. I missed most of the Japanese brass era, born in 1973, will be 40 next year. But I had loads of Tyco, Mantua, Athearn super power F units custom done by LHS in NYC lightning strip and matching heavyweight 20th century train. I split pulling duties with the F's or the Hudson. Although with the full consist I had to bank the Hudson up the grade with the 2 F7a units in front of the Hudson. Cheers Mike P.S. Thank you for the trip down memory lane, it was fun although my pocketbook might not like it in the future!
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Posted - October 06 2012 : 12:20:09 AM
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Ken,
Yet again, NICE work! Who made that? I haven't read all the through the posting to see if you have mentioned it....
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Posted - October 06 2012 : 08:16:24 AM
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hi cadetpwr,getting the right decals here in uk,is next to impossible,but am still trying to locate them,ken
john,its an early tenshodo,with similar tender fitting as the early mantuas ie a plug ken
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Posted - October 06 2012 : 08:47:00 AM
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Ken, is there a certain brand of decals you want? Champ, Hearld King, Microscale? We have a very well stocked old school hobby shop near here, Hawkins Rail in Lafayette, IN. He might have what you need, probably does as he bought up loads of decals before many of these companies when out of business. I would be glad to post you a set if he has them. He does do mail order, dont see why he wouldnt send them direct, but if he wont post to the UK, I would. Let me know as I will probably be there in the next 2 weeks. Or give him a call, open 12noon till 5pm eastern std time in the USA. I am guessing that the Champ or Hearld King set would be the closest to the original decals. I am not sure who provided them to Tenshodo. Just a standard set for NYC steam is needed. Mike
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Posted - October 06 2012 : 09:17:03 AM
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| hi mike,a standard set of waterslide decals is all i require,would have gone the ebay route,but postage is crazy,ken
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Posted - October 06 2012 : 10:47:23 AM
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I will check with Jack over at Hawkins Rail this week and get back to you. He most likely has them. I checked in my decal pile and all I have are caboose decals for NYC. I also may need a set as I am working on getting myself one of these that will need the decaling redone. I also find it helps the paint stick, if you bake these in the oven at 180' for 45 min to an hour. I bake all my brass unless it has parts that have been super glued (acc glue) back on. A Champ set would be perfect, I think that is what Tenshodo used back in the day. I just did some waterslide decals on my Petter AC1 diesel that I am putting in my garden tractor, got them from a friend in the UK! Mike P.S. I think my original Hudson had the optional Box pok style drivers instead of the spoked ones that yours has.
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Posted - October 06 2012 : 10:54:14 AM
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| hi mike,cheers for that,the early tenshodo hudsons came with both styles of drivers,ken
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Posted - October 06 2012 : 12:33:13 PM
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Ken, that's a pretty hefty looking open frame. As long as the magnet's still strong, she must have some torque.
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Posted - October 06 2012 : 12:43:54 PM
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I knew that from the Tenshodo catalogs I have been reading on HO seeker and my stack of 1948-1961 Model Railroad Craftsmans. I will let you know on the decals later this week. Mike
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