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A brown box BN GP20 that is re-powered with a good running "MU2" from an Red Box SF GP20 that I got while visiting an out of state train shop. This shell normally has Power Torque power. It will get the handrails too.
I had trouble using the original Mantua rear truck mounting plate #4845, it wouldn't fit in the side slots, so I swapped it with another one that came from a CB&Q Geep20 that had metal tabs that were set more toward the back of the plate and slipped right in.
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Posted - July 15 2012 : 08:11:13 AM
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nice mantua duo,nyc f7a/b set,i have 2 sets of these,1 set has one mu-2 motors, other has 2 x mu-2 motors,ken
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Posted - July 15 2012 : 08:41:19 AM
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Hobbyline Fairbanks Morse H-10-44...
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Hi guys!
This is my LOTW:
It is a Tenshodo 0-6-0 Brass & Diecast Steam Locomotive. Very early Japan import. Was the first of their models to be imported before all other brass. This model is the later second generation, which is clear by the double width of the space between the rivets and the top edge of the water tanks. The later models have the DC motor which required additional space. The earlier version does not have this space and has an AC motor. They were never published in any Tenshodo catalog. Since it was Tenshodo's first production piece, they were imported by other companies in the 1950's.
The AC version is ultra rare. The only one I have ever sold, sold for over $200. I saw one in kit form with all the parts, box and instructions sell for $500. I have one that I plan to restore shortly. This later one typically sells for $75 to $110 on eBay, however the last one sold for ~$183. I purchased it as this with a lot of 3 other junk engines for $23, inc s/h. After approx 1 hour of restoration and the addition of a few of the missing parts, I have the engine below. I need to just replace the contact wire before it is finished.
Sean
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Posted - July 15 2012 : 12:09:15 PM
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| Sean you make me so jealous,4 locos made of plastic for $23, inc s/h,would be bad enough,but brass and diecast,WOW ken
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Posted - July 15 2012 : 12:20:21 PM
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quote:Sean you make me so jealous,4 locos made of plastic for $23, inc s/h,would be bad enough,but brass and diecast,WOW ken
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Sorry Ken... it was listed very badly though too, so that helped. Then again... you have some quite nice pieces yourself, so I should not feel too badly about making you jealous.. LOL 
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Posted - July 16 2012 : 07:32:40 AM
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nice diecast "brick" shaygetz ;-) with interesting mechanism! - Erich
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Posted - July 16 2012 : 9:57:03 PM
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An updated picture with the hand rails.
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Posted - July 17 2012 : 12:14:41 AM
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quote:Hobbyline Fairbanks Morse H-10-44...
Originally posted by shaygetz - July 15 2012 : 08:41:19 AM
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Bob, did that have a tank drive shaft, or is it 4 wheel drive only?
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Posted - July 17 2012 : 03:05:34 AM
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quote: quote:Hobbyline Fairbanks Morse H-10-44...
Originally posted by shaygetz - July 15 2012 : 08:41:19 AM
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Bob, did that have a tank drive shaft, or is it 4 wheel drive only?
Originally posted by NickelPlate759Â -Â July 17 2012Â :Â 12:14:41 AM
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It looks like a "Pitman" motor. Only the single truck was geared for traction.
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Posted - July 17 2012 : 06:49:39 AM
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| John is correct, it is their earlier single truck drive. With only 4 wheel pickup up front, this must've been a hoot to do switching ops with...
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Posted - July 17 2012 : 08:40:37 AM
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quote:Hi guys!
This is my LOTW:
It is a Tenshodo 0-6-0 Brass & Diecast Steam Locomotive. Very early Japan import. Was the first of their models to be imported before all other brass. This model is the later second generation, which is clear by the double width of the space between the rivets and the top edge of the water tanks. The later models have the DC motor which required additional space. The earlier version does not have this space and has an AC motor. They were never published in any Tenshodo catalog. Since it was Tenshodo's first production piece, they were imported by other companies in the 1950's.
The AC version is ultra rare. The only one I have ever sold, sold for over $200. I saw one in kit form with all the parts, box and instructions sell for $500. I have one that I plan to restore shortly. This later one typically sells for $75 to $110 on eBay, however the last one sold for ~$183. I purchased it as this with a lot of 3 other junk engines for $23, inc s/h. After approx 1 hour of restoration and the addition of a few of the missing parts, I have the engine below. I need to just replace the contact wire before it is finished.
Originally posted by Mustangs_n_Trains - July 15 2012 : 12:05:14 PM
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Sean ; This loco is made by International not tenshodo. It is made of Lead. The tenshodo is die cast.
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Posted - July 17 2012 : 11:15:36 AM
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you are right again frank,ken
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Posted - July 17 2012 : 11:47:13 AM
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My LOTW is an all metal Hobby Town RS unit. It was blue when I got it, and is currently in the middle of a restoration. It is a switcher so I think I am going to go all red (repainting the portion with white stripes to all red) and strip and repaint the frame and handrails black. Maybe silver trucks. I also have acquired some marker lights that actually light up that would fit perfectly to this unit. The drive is the same as the above Hobby Town unit. One truck drive with the pickup at the other end. The motor seems to be a good runner when tested however this has not yet been track tested because the wiring configuration is incorrect. Maybe someone here can help? It also seems to have a terrible makeshift copper pickup and the wheels on the pickup truck are smaller than the drive truck. Sort of an odd-ball unit at the moment. The gears however are something to look at! Never seen a configuration like this before! This unit came in a box with 3 other Hobby Town all metal units, 2 F7a's one powered and one dummy and a dummy b unit. Not a terrible deal for $50.
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Posted - July 17 2012 : 7:40:36 PM
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2 busted Rivarossi Casey Jones into one! One came from a friend and the other from eBay.
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Posted - July 18 2012 : 11:18:08 AM
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Nice restore Justin!
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Posted - July 18 2012 : 9:01:55 PM
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My LOTW is a Mantua 4301 painted for the Penn Central. Haven't really run it at all since I bought it.
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Posted - July 18 2012 : 11:32:02 PM
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 C&O 2-6-0 Roundhouse RTR old timer
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Posted - July 19 2012 : 06:11:56 AM
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quote:Hobbyline Fairbanks Morse H-10-44...
Originally posted by shaygetz - July 15 2012 : 08:41:19 AM
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I've always liked the looks of the FM H-10-44's, for whatever reason they were different and thats why I think I'm fond of them!
I have a Walthers Trainline version, and then an old Cary metal shell thats on an Athearn frame.....The Cary, will pull every car in the yard with the weight it has! I have to finish the Walthers model as it will be painted to match the Cary I completed, in B&O, dual stripe paint, and "Baltimore And Ohio" written out on the hood side......To bad the Western Maryland didn't have any of them! There switchers were mostly ALCO's and a few Baldwins.....
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Posted - July 19 2012 : 06:13:21 AM
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quote:
Thats an RS-2, look at the smoke stack placement on it! Would look GREAT in Western Maryland paint...... A fireball OR simply in Speed lettering, it look good either way!
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Posted - July 19 2012 : 10:24:27 PM
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Got some of my Tyco stuff out of one of my train boxes-wish I had a layout to run it on....
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Posted - July 19 2012 : 10:46:59 PM
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This old E-7A units have always been one of my favorite Tyco locomotives...
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Posted - July 20 2012 : 11:05:49 AM
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quote: 
Originally posted by a6m5zerosen - July 19 2012 : 10:24:27 PM
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Hi, any chance you can reflect the pic's new location in that post? I'm scheduling image grabbing only once a week at time as it is an intensive process. These got moved or deleted pretty quickly on photobucket.
Thanks in advance for your consideration.
post link http://i1021.photobucket.com/albums/af333/a6m5zerosen/20100820005608_tycolot3-1.jpg|The remote server returned an error: (404) Not Found.
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Posted - July 20 2012 : 11:11:08 AM
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| OK, see you organized yourself. Always a good thing. I found them and fixed the links.
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Posted - July 20 2012 : 7:25:56 PM
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Posted - July 21 2012 : 02:43:09 AM
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This is a Bachmann 4-4-0 I just rebult.
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Posted - July 21 2012 : 06:24:32 AM
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| hi ray did you modify the motor,or leave as was ken
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Posted - July 21 2012 : 10:22:11 AM
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Ray,
Good to hear from you. You're input has been missed.
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Posted - July 21 2012 : 11:58:33 AM
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quote:hi ray did you modify the motor,or leave as was ken
Originally posted by catfordken - July 21 2012 : 06:24:32 AM
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The motor is the stock can motor.
I improved the electrical pickups and had to make new bushings for the worm to quiet some vibrations it had.
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Posted - July 21 2012 : 1:03:13 PM
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| hi ray,glad to see your posting,and thanks for info,ken
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Posted - July 21 2012 : 9:28:44 PM
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Ray, I did a simple disk drive motor replacement on my older pancake motor version. The motor is very quiet (quieter than the other candidate shown), but the worm is noisy, I think because it was molded with the parting lines (seams) straight down it's length.
The universal cup is NWSL, so I just I took the pins off the end of the Bachmann shaft and filed it down, then glued on the larger NWSL horned ball. I also soldered flex wire to the front truck so it picks up current for the whole loco, not just the headlight.
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Posted - July 21 2012 : 9:39:38 PM
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Picked this Model Power Shark up at my LHS. Made in Austria, runs great...
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Posted - July 22 2012 : 12:16:14 AM
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quote: I think because it was molded with the parting lines (seams) straight down it's length.
Originally posted by NickelPlate759Â -Â July 21 2012Â :Â 9:28:44 PM
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That was part of the issue with mine.
The 5 other Bachman 4-4-0s I rebuilt didn't have the bushing problem. (yea, I have a few of them)
The front bearing on this one was .020" larger than the shaft of the worm, so I made a bushing to keep the worm from wobbling around.
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Posted - July 22 2012 : 01:14:03 AM
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I have a bachmann 4-4-0 UP #119, but its in deplorable shape! Missing its smokestack headlight, drive shaft, valve guides and so much more. I got the tender running good by itself but other than i've never touched it. It arrived in that shape, my friends dad was a huge train fan and when he died of cancer they left all the stuff to me since they knew i could take care of it. All the buildings off his layout are on mine he didnt have many engines but some rolling stock and a lot of g scale stuff. So far 70% of all the stuff from him is being used again. the 4-4-0 wont get in my shop for a long while.
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Posted - July 22 2012 : 04:46:06 AM
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Those Sharks have always ran nice! (I've got one just like yours pictured here.) I also have a set in B&O thats from ER Models, and then I have a BUNCH of them in TYCO as well....Something different then the normal F7A's or the F-9A's to run around! Even tho, I have a ton of those as well!
I'm working on a ABA set of any of the following: RF16's, FA-2's F-7's, E-7's and E-8's, ABA sets of all of them in B&O and then I have a set of ABA set in Western Maryland "Fireball paint" and then another set in Western Maryland "Speed lettering paint" which I have yet to complete a ABA set in Western Maryland "Circus paint"......
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Posted - July 22 2012 : 10:12:46 AM
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Sorry Ken and Frank. International was ONLY an importer of this piece. Tenshodo is the manufacturer:
This was in an email from an elderly Japanese man who purchased several of them from me, including the $500+ one that was not sold by me:
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Sean,
Yours is the later version of the Tenshodo's first 0-6-0.
The later version uses tall DC motor and therefore side water tank receives remodeling to accommodate it.
This type is VERY popular and I have more than ten.
The one I won today is AC version and original side tank.
This is extremely rare and I sighted only twice at eBay.
(I have one, but slightly not original)
It is simple.
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He also sent the the attached image which is written in Japanese. Since this loco was never cataloged, this is the best evidence I have.
/tyco/forum/uploaded/Mustangs_n_Trains/20120722101203_AC_version.jpg
Sorry guys.... I'm right.
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Posted - July 22 2012 : 3:13:28 PM
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Interesting stuff, Sean. Do you know how they achieved reverse with an AC motor? It looks a little small for a reverse unit.
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Posted - July 22 2012 : 9:30:36 PM
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quote:Interesting stuff, Sean. Do you know how they achieved reverse with an AC motor? It looks a little small for a reverse unit.
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Hi Nelson,
On the AC units, just above the space between the first and the steam chest (under the tank) there is a small brass lever switch which swings from the front to the back for forward and reverse.
I found a third one that I have in a parts box that is missing the steam chest. The switch location can be clearly seen in the photo.
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Posted - July 23 2012 : 5:43:02 PM
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Ah... the old manual reverse lever. I would have thought it was a New One design, though it looks a bit sturdier.
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Posted - July 23 2012 : 6:07:02 PM
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| One nice thing about A.C. motors with field coils (as opposed to permanent magnets) is that they don't lose their strength... there is no magnet.
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Posted - July 23 2012 : 7:42:43 PM
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Not when the power's off, anyway. The field is an electromagnet, but then so is an armature. Technically they're actually universal motors, since they can run on DC as well.
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quote: quote:Hi guys!
This is my LOTW...
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Originally posted by Mustangs_n_Trains - July 15 2012 : 12:05:14 PM
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Sean ; This loco is made by International not tenshodo. It is made of Lead. The tenshodo is die cast.
frank
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Please use gloves when handling any lead product.
While lead is one of the easiest metals to recycle/re-manufacture, it's also the metal which is most easily acquired (sold, marketed) and absorbed by skin. 
My experience with lead was learned by finding and picking up auto-tire rim balancing weights, sorting them out... and wondering why my fingers ached immediately. 
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Posted - July 25 2012 : 11:26:49 AM
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Zeb,
Thanks for the caution on working with lead. Hopefully I'll remember this when needed.
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Posted - July 25 2012 : 3:12:25 PM
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Hey, I handled all those lead weights in my locos when I was a kid and I turned out okay. 
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