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 Posted - December 31 2011 : 3:19:47 PM
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I got this is a deal and cannot find any markings on it. It is belt driven with strange little head light. I don't have a tender but if I can find out what make it is I should be able to find a tender in my junk box.
Any help would be great.
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Posted - December 31 2011 : 3:22:13 PM
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It's made by Lionel,from the early 60's.
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Posted - December 31 2011 : 3:53:54 PM
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| Carl's right. The cab number is the Lionel number, if you want to look up info on it.
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Posted - December 31 2011 : 4:02:15 PM
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this is what carl t was talking about ken
http://www.hoseeker.net/lionelhoinformation/lionelhocatalog1961pg5.jpg
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Posted - December 31 2011 : 5:00:22 PM
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Hi Guys,
This is why I belong to this site. Ask a question and you get the right answer.
Thanks for your help.
Now I need to find a tender. The engine works but slow I will need to give it a good cleaning and it should run great. This is my first lionel !!!
Are the belts easy to get??
Ken
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Posted - December 31 2011 : 6:05:22 PM
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It's just an O-ring, Ken. If you still have the old one, you can go to Home Depot and pick out the right size. I did the same for an old Revell switcher.
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Posted - January 02 2012 : 5:30:28 PM
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I was going to guess Lionel just because of the motor but the cab number also looks like a Lionel font. A nice find.
Ken that building or photo in the background is interesting, how'd you come by that one?
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Posted - March 31 2012 : 03:50:00 AM
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I hate to say wasn't that steamer offered by Athearn in the 60's? LOOK at the motor! SAME as the one used in the B&M 4-6-2 from the same era!
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Posted - March 31 2012 : 9:13:54 PM
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John,
Nope, that's the Lionel motor. They were in everything from their Husky to their Pacifics. The Athearn motor was the unblackened weak open frame Hi-F motor.
Irv didn't have enough patience with steam. If he had waited a few years until they came out with their much stronger Jet motors (with the oval ring magnet), they would have performed much better. The Hi-F motors were weak in the early geared diesels, too.
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Posted - March 31 2012 : 9:16:48 PM
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Hey Nelson:
That pic you just posted is that an Atearn "Jet" motor?
What are they like???
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Posted - March 31 2012 : 9:48:01 PM
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Gareth,
My pics are to show the Hi-F motor that was used in their 60's steam. Here's a diagram of the Jet motor. Must be a drawing from the 60's, because it uses the metal mounting plate instead of the rubber mounts.
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Posted - April 01 2012 : 12:54:55 AM
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quote:John,
Nope, that's the Lionel motor. They were in everything from their Husky to their Pacifics. The Athearn motor was the unblackened weak open frame Hi-F motor.
Irv didn't have enough patience with steam. If he had waited a few years until they came out with their much stronger Jet motors (with the oval ring magnet), they would have performed much better. The Hi-F motors were weak in the early geared diesels, too.
Originally posted by NickelPlate759Â -Â March 31 2012Â :Â 9:13:54 PM
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Nelson, I confused the 0-6-0 with the 0-4-2T......
I have both a Lionel 0-6-0, and then the 0-4-2T by Athearn...... The frames look REALLY similar tho....Amazing how much of that was done, but I don't recal seeing the "Hi-Fi" motor having an angle mount on it.......
Good thought tho, I wonder if the jet motor armature would fit the old Hi Fi? Interesting as if I recall the armature was the issue on the Hi-Fi motors! I might have to give that a try!
~John
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Posted - April 01 2012 : 5:33:03 PM
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John, they re-tooled the front end bell for their steamers to put the motor on the diagonal.
The Jet armature wouldn't fit, in fact the Hi-F armature is very short. It's almost a pancake motor. The only way to improve them is with a neodymium magnet transplant, which I have yet to do to one of these.
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Posted - April 02 2012 : 02:26:13 AM
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Nelson,
I'll have to see what I might have for Armatures, as I might have something to fit in one of the Hi-Fi's....Hmmmmm
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