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something that has been on my mind for a long time,you have a/b trains by various makers,ie alco pa-1/pb-1s,my question is did they mix em when desperate for extra power like say e7a with f7b ken
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Heck yeah Ken. They mixed everything.

CP 8594-RS10
8458-RS3
4016-FA1
at Agincourt Yard June 1970.jpg



and...

An Amtrak F40PH with an SP E9B.



Finally I have video of an Alco RS-3 doubleheading with a 4-6-2 Pacific

Hope that helps.

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was just thinking out loud,but seemed a logical question,many thanks ken
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my reasoning is i have a e7a and a f7b in cpr livery,which to me looks good ken
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In reality, there are a couple reasons why some locos could NOT MU as you describe.

First is that early diesel MU capability was not universal. Some, (like Lima, early Baldwins, and early FMs), used compressed air systems to control added locos. Others like EMD and Alco standardized on an electrical design. Some roads replaced the air activated controls with electrical later. So there could be compatibility issues.

Second is differences in gear ratios. If the locos have different gear ratios, then they won't MU together well. One loco will go faster at a given throttle setting then the other loco. Your idea would possibly have such a problem. Most E-units were geared for high speed while frieght only F-units would have a much lower high speed gearing.

BUT ....... again railroads did alter things. When their passenger carrying days ended, some roads did try to regear the E-units to use them as frieght locos. Most 6 axle passenger locos ran "A-1-A" trucks though, which did not do as good in frieght service. I don't think these lasted long.
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Ken;

I know CPR and CNR ran FP-9A's with F-7/9B's as there were no FP-9B's.

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this would be good to model in HO hehe
I think I saw that style in Runaway Train once
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The rule in North American Railroading is:

THE PROTOTYPE PROBABLY DID IT!

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Ive Seen SD50 Oakway(MB Will No What one Is) doublehead with a Dash9, The Ubicutous Power On NS. Ive also Seen Conrail Solid Lashups.
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CNVItyco:

You;re punching above your weight class there, vocabulary wise, Kid.

From context, I can deduce you understand the word's (Ubiquitous) meaning, but thats more than a typo. Turn on the spell AND grammar check I adjure you!

I think my eyes are bleeding!

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I Misspelled It. I know What The Definition is
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...and I learned something new today I always wondered about that too, Ken.
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