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 Posted - July 17 2011 : 5:37:12 PM
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this is my start of a dual powered boxcab,track and overhead,nothing on roof is permanently fixed as yet,ken
as a starting point which would you use
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Posted - July 17 2011 : 6:11:47 PM
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The bottom...the other detail, stacks and cooling coils, would be unnecessary on a juicer...
Sweet lokie...
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Posted - July 17 2011 : 6:24:31 PM
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| thanks shaygetz,gotta think what else it needs ie bells etc ken
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Posted - July 17 2011 : 6:33:15 PM
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Very interesting subject Ken. What did the catenary come from? Will it run off the overhead?
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Posted - July 17 2011 : 6:35:02 PM
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| hi alco fan,it came off a joueff french loco which ran overhead ken
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Posted - July 17 2011 : 7:37:39 PM
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You'll want to add air horns, an air bell, cooling coils but of a different type (see pic), the two center windows on either side you'll want to make into air vents, roof walks of some sort and a junction box on the roof...
Every road is different, mine follows basic details found on a variety of roads that struck my fancy.
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Posted - July 17 2011 : 8:19:22 PM
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got plenty of plastic strips,just need some horns and bells,what you use for the cooling coils ken
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Posted - July 17 2011 : 8:54:02 PM
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I had some stiff steel wire that came in a bundle, I bent it just like you see in the pic. Took a couple tries to get the right length but, once I got it, it was easy to copy for the other side. Then I added the styrene standoffs with ACC gel to keep them separated. It copies some of the earlier boxcab juicers on the New Haven...I really only added it because it made the roof look busier and I liked the look...
My pantograph came off of an AHM/Rivarossi GG1...
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Posted - July 17 2011 : 9:07:22 PM
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| cheers for help and ideas ken
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Posted - July 17 2011 : 9:22:45 PM
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| You're welcome...looking forward to seeing your progress...
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Posted - July 18 2011 : 4:36:26 PM
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shay hows this looking,remembered i had some walthers module bits and pieces ken
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Posted - July 18 2011 : 5:02:43 PM
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Ken, here is one I did many moons ago. She's due for a paint job, I really like your traction yellow. - Thomas
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Posted - July 18 2011 : 5:08:33 PM
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nice one thomas,i wanted to know what the louvres looked like,it was a union pacific liveried one but took the tampo printing off ken
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Posted - July 18 2011 : 6:16:51 PM
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| You're well on your way, Ken...Nice juicer, Thomas.
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Posted - July 18 2011 : 6:50:17 PM
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Thanks Shay, yours looks great too, I especially like the details like the coils and the horns.
Question: How do you curve the roof? Is the plastic just thin, or do you do anything special to get the curvature?
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Posted - July 18 2011 : 8:00:09 PM
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| Thanks...I rolled the roof around a half inch dowel, then glued it to a curved framework---then cornered the market on rubber bands....
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Posted - July 18 2011 : 8:39:34 PM
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Hey Shay-man!
Know what I just found out? There is a.....
wait for it......
a GEAR cutting attachment for my little Unimat Lathe/Mill!
I'll leave it to your imagination as to what that makes possible???
-Gareth
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Posted - July 18 2011 : 10:21:49 PM
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quote:
a GEAR cutting attachment for my little Unimat Lathe/Mill!
-Gareth
Originally posted by romcat - July 18 2011 : 8:39:34 PM
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That you even HAVE a Unimat is an injustice most unbearable...oh, the pain...the pain...
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Posted - July 18 2011 : 10:26:43 PM
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I know you'll appreiate the fact it was basically free!
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Posted - July 18 2011 : 11:18:20 PM
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Mmmmm, gear cutter...
Man, the trouble I could get into.
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Posted - July 18 2011 : 11:34:42 PM
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hey Ken love that boxcab loco I sees MOW on it  That what it looks like to me it should be
The more I think about it I'm gonna keep my boxcab loco It's too cool to let go
Anyway here is mine
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Posted - July 19 2011 : 08:22:58 AM
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Too bad Ben we don't give out an award for most times the same loco has been posted!
Coming along Kenny! RW, nice looker, and Shaygetz how about the Unimat for the Juice.... wait only kidding!
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Posted - July 19 2011 : 08:35:53 AM
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final question,where should pantograph be,ken
on end
cetral to windows,or central to roof
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Posted - July 19 2011 : 09:13:56 AM
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Ken, from the pictures I've seen, it seems like the pantograph should be centered unless you're adding a trolley pickup on one end like Thomas' model.
http://www.jefflubchanskycpa.com/PRR5690STRAS-AP20-2DG568.jpg
http://www.lafterhall.com/osw06_012.jpg
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Posted - July 19 2011 : 09:28:45 AM
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| hi nelson i prefer centre, the size of the panto is to big to make like Thomas did,ken
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Posted - July 19 2011 : 11:22:56 AM
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Ken, here are a few more pics that might help:
Sacramento Northern #102
http://www.davesrailpix.com/sn/htm/sn102.htm
Visalia Electric #501
http://www.davesrailpix.com/odds/ca/htm/ve01.htm
Butte Anaconda & Pacific Ry
http://donsdepot.donrossgroup.net/dr186.htm
Cheers, Thomas
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Posted - July 22 2011 : 12:50:36 PM
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got a pair of these coming,which i think look better ken
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Posted - July 22 2011 : 2:05:41 PM
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I'll be getting a halfway kitbashed MDC boxcab soon. It's been slighty stretched to adapt to Athearn's SW7. Also got a old MDC coach too! Gonna combine 'em soon.
" Heck with counting 'em rivets, TRAINS ARE FOR FUN! Not called the Mad Scientist for nothing either!"
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Posted - July 22 2011 : 2:08:58 PM
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| hi mate post pics when you do ken
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Posted - July 22 2011 : 3:23:18 PM
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sure thang Ken! Can't wait fer it to show up so I can start a bashin'.
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Posted - July 26 2011 : 08:02:04 AM
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new pantographs i think they look much better ken
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Posted - July 26 2011 : 12:26:33 PM
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[quote]new pantographs i think they look much better ken
because of the isolators! - Erich
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Posted - July 26 2011 : 12:43:15 PM
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Definitely better looking pans. Who made the two versions?
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Posted - July 26 2011 : 12:46:38 PM
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triang made the one in first pics,sommerfeldt the last pics ken
http://www.btinternet.com/~beckits/Pantos/pantoho.htm
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Posted - July 26 2011 : 1:04:01 PM
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Ken ; Here is a boxcab of a slightly different size. Two bodies put togrther with a Athearn drive.
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Posted - July 26 2011 : 1:26:33 PM
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| frank,that is a good conversion,love it ken
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Posted - July 27 2011 : 08:02:59 AM
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whilst looking for ideas came across this guys site,first car is a mdc boxcab,but check out the rest of his ho conversions might give you ideas ken
http://www.tacoma-trains.com/RobertABoydpage1.htm
my first attempt shrunk in the wash
/tyco/forum/uploaded/catfordken/20110727094440_002-1.JPG
now i have the worlds smallest box cab
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Posted - July 27 2011 : 10:09:12 AM
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...and the operator, operates from the footboard???
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 Posted - July 27 2011 : 2:27:48 PM
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It's the electric powered mobile outhouse!
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Posted - July 30 2011 : 11:49:19 AM
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kids decision, like it,so amgoing this route ken
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Posted - July 30 2011 : 12:00:46 PM
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 Liking Those Boxcabs! But are the Going To Run Under Wires?
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Posted - July 30 2011 : 12:24:05 PM
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| time will tell watch this box ken
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Posted - July 30 2011 : 12:56:44 PM
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| Looks fine, Ken...would've done that with mine but it was just too short.
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Posted - July 30 2011 : 5:56:42 PM
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kids saw this,and my mind said yes,never new we had them way back in 1914 ken
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Posted - October 11 2011 : 12:58:04 PM
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I Think That It Is A Jersey Central Diesel w/ Pantograph. I Saw Something Identical In A Book Last Night Going To Bed. It Didn`t have The Pantograph Though. Get Pics When I Get Home. Hopefully.
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Posted - October 11 2011 : 2:25:20 PM
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Hey Ken:
Having operated "Pano's" under live wire on a show display "Traction" layout, I can say that they are vastly superior to poles, especially when reversing through overhead frogs. I love the looks of the poles though.
What about Ken if you had a Pn on one end and a pole on the other? This wasn't all that uncommon in prototype use....
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