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 Posted - March 30 2011 : 07:14:13 AM
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this year in about 12 days it is 150 years since the civil war started,do you celebrate that or the end of the war,ken
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Posted - March 30 2011 : 07:35:27 AM
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quote:this year in about 12 days it is 150 years since the civil war started,do you celebrate that or the end of the war,ken
Originally posted by catfordken - March 30 2011 : 07:14:13 AM
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Um....I think MOST anniversaries tend to celebrate war's ENDing, not BEGINNING. Usually pre-war or pre-conflict anniversaries tend to be about protests or starts of successful revolutions leading to freedom for some people or group or nation, but it's usually successful conclusions, not start-ups, that bring out the celebrations. But no one ( I know of ) celebrates the start of WW1 or WWII or the Korean War, or Vietnam war. That would be strange.... Of course, the start of Dieselization in the Steam/Diesel wars might be a cause celebre for those promoting efficiency in railroad operations.   Who put the first commercial diesel engine into successful operation, anyway? You say you want a REVOLUTION.....
Jerry
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Posted - March 30 2011 : 08:04:51 AM
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hi jerry,we do not exactly celebrate the start of our wars,but the papers,tv etc tend to go over the top with the reminders,just wondered,no offence meant,and understand where your answer came from,ie common sense,ken
regards the diesel i wonder if the one built in 1892 in woolwich is a contender
Edited by - catfordken on March 30 2011 08:07:09 AM
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Posted - March 30 2011 : 2:00:40 PM
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how about we post the Civil War trains Tyco made for the 100 anniversary? 
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Posted - March 30 2011 : 4:10:57 PM
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quote:how about we post the Civil War trains Tyco made for the 100 anniversary?
Originally posted by microbusss - March 30 2011 : 2:00:40 PM
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 Who here can AFFORD one of those sets?
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Posted - March 30 2011 : 4:21:21 PM
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ben hit upon why i made my statement,tyco bought out those sets for the centennial ie 1861-1961,wonder if bachmann and co bring out a 150th ie 1861-2011 ken
some of the merchandise available already
http://www.avanyx.com/
bachmann have
http://www.trainsetsonly.com/page/TSO/PROD/160-708
and to be expected Hawthorne village
http://www.bradfordexchange.com/products/49073_civil-war-train.html
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Posted - March 30 2011 : 9:27:21 PM
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Hey Buss,
Here's a pre Civil War set I just sold today, The John Bull
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Posted - April 01 2011 : 12:31:02 PM
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cool &  that's one set I wants someday too 
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Posted - April 01 2011 : 7:10:57 PM
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I find it a haunting topic, having grown up near so many battlefields, including Antietam and Gettysburg. It is hard to describe the feeling I get when I look over the field where Picket's Charge took place, or the Bloody Angle, where bodies were 5 deep and the push so thick that soldiers in the rear were reloading and passing their rifles forward to the ones in front. The wounds from that war have never healed, slavery being the least of the issues that led to it and and the brutality used against the people of the South towards the end is without justification.
Being of Amish descent, my family could have been involved in the underground railroad. As Amish, they would have faced regular persecution for their beliefs against war and their refusal to join the Union forces. I do have at least 2 relatives who broke from their faith, one seeing combat throughout the war, the other forming a regiment that was soon disbanded towards the end of the war---this may explain the rather sharp break in the family records of the day. The Amish shun, firmly and as a community, without concern for polls or popular trends of the day.
It's interesting to note that the casualties on both sides--as a percentage of population--would equal over 17,000,000 men today, quite a traumatic mess in its day.
Slavery was actually well on its way out until the invention of the cotton gin, whereupon it exploded with the demand for cotton worldwide. Less than 5% of the South were actually slave owners and the Emancipation Proclamation only freed the slaves in the South, not in the Union states. Of the top 5 Confederate generals, only Jeb Stuart was a slave owner, eventually selling his---at their request--to another family before the war. Grant, the Union general was a slave owner through his wife's family.
Reading Lincoln's early speeches, one will find his primary concern against secession was tax revenues, not slavery. Lincoln's words to Grant when asked the conditions of surrender were, "Let them down easy..."
In 1994, the remains of a Confederate soldier were found on Little Round Top in Gettysburg. In 1996, he was buried with full military honors at the National cemetery nearby. In attendance were 2 of 3 surviving Civil War veteran's widows still drawing a pension and the 65-year-old son of one of those vets. The 3 women married their husbands in the early 1920s, when they were in their 20s and their husbands were over 80 years old.
At the start of the war, there were 5000 miles of railroad in this country, 4 years later, there were over 500,000 miles. The were also 2 gauges, the South was 5' the North 4' 8 1/2", Lincoln's car, meant for his use as President before it became his funeral car, was built for both.
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Posted - April 02 2011 : 6:12:14 PM
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 Probably saw a few ghosts at the battlefields Which are said to be haunted
Gettysbugh I know is o.o
Still can you imagine if the Union LOST the Civil War?
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Posted - April 02 2011 : 7:30:40 PM
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I have many thoughts on the outcome....
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Posted - April 03 2011 : 5:05:15 PM
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| Yeah BUT knowing Hollywood & comics It's been done alot
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