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 Posted - February 04 2011 : 2:18:26 PM
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My thread about the Rectifier being a potential "error" kit got me to thinking and for sheer curiosity what all error kits do some of you other Athearn collectors have?
Here's my list:
NW 86' Autoparts Boxcar with two different roadnumbers
Stauffer Chemical ACF 55' Hopper with 2 different numbers/reporting marks (ACFX on side and SHPX on ends)
WR Grace ACF 55' centerflow with reversed color scheme
CN 40' Boxcar with reversed noodle herald and lettering placement on car side
B&M (blue) 40' box car with black car kit number
Conoco single dome tank car w/ offset "heater coil" lettering
GN 40' stock car w/MP reporting marks/number and 2 different build dates
UP 40' stock car w/ 2 different build dates
SAL 40' flat car (with boat) w/ wrong build date and 2 different load lengths
IHB 50' gondola with no data on side (blank except for orange panel)
ERIE 50 gondola (with cannisters) w/ Lionel logo applied in error
CB&Q 40' box car special edition set w/all 3 having the word "Award" misspelled
PBNE 50 gondola special editions with "Philadelphia" misspelled
Athearn 40' container from SE set #2312 with extra zero in roadnumber on rear
Engines:
Rectifier? (VGN 0650 - upside down 0590)
MILW H26-66 - 556 on side 559 on other
GN S12 - 25 on cab sides 28 on cab rear
EL S12 617 with backwards herald on right side
B&O PB1 - no lettering
ATSF U33C 8517 - no pinstrips or yellow frame sills on both sides. has pinstripes on cab only
PBNE SW7 - "Philadelphia" misspelled in herald (special edition)
BN SW1000 - 307 (incorrect SW1500 number)
ATSF GP30 - no numbers on cabside
SP F7A 6352 - blank "bloody nose" - no SP or number
B&O GP35 3509 - very rare blue and white instead of blue and yellow
ATSF GP38-2 3571 - no dynamic brake hatch
NS GP50 5246 - incorrect GP38-2 number
ATSF SD40-2 5068 - SPSF merger scheme - lettering in wrong place on left side
B&O FP45 - 9856 on one side of cab 9859 on other
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Posted - February 04 2011 : 4:15:31 PM
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sounds cool but pics would be nice 
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Posted - February 04 2011 : 4:29:37 PM
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quote:sounds cool but pics would be nice
Originally posted by microbusss - February 04 2011 : 4:15:31 PM
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Lol it take me awhile to shoot all of those ;) (but I'll try to work on em)
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Posted - February 04 2011 : 4:59:39 PM
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 Yes I know SOU Just do the funny ones Like misspellings & reversed lettering
I knows there's a Eat-It-All Cone one without the ice cream on the cones!
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Posted - February 04 2011 : 7:45:35 PM
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Maybe because they ate it all? /groan
Hmm... can't say I've ever inspected my entire Athearn fleet, but I seem to recall having a SP double-door boxcar with a road number goof. Will have to see if I still have it and recall that correctly.
One of my favorite error cars is a Bachmann Cylindrical hopper (one of my favorite models ever, period) with an interesting goof. Bachmann does a good job decorating these cars... right down to full data, COTS stencils, and end-panel data which was generally uncommon in low-end HO.
But when they released the (then new) batch of roadnames in 2003 or so, I found a Great Northern example with end data... except the reporting marks were properly sized but misplaced, while the words CAR DATA HERE (or something to that effect) were huge. A neat insight to how the graphics design and layout process gets translated to production: the instructions for where to put the data got printed on the car too!
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Posted - February 04 2011 : 8:45:05 PM
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| oh I forgot! The most common one & has never been corrected is the Tyco Sanka Grain Hopper "Caffiene" is misspelled
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Posted - February 04 2011 : 9:04:56 PM
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I guess they were in rush that day...
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Posted - February 04 2011 : 9:33:08 PM
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Hi Ben. Here it is again. just for you
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Posted - February 04 2011 : 10:06:19 PM
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Here's the B&O GP35.
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Posted - February 04 2011 : 10:09:00 PM
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EL s12 with backwards herald.
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Posted - February 04 2011 : 10:15:10 PM
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rare trainset only IHB gon with blank side. This car was initially created as a safety award for IHB employees. Athearn then ran some in trainsets without the safety award lettering - and some unlettered completely on side lol.
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Edited by - SOU2645 on February 04 2011 10:16:31 PM
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Posted - February 04 2011 : 10:29:32 PM
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a more recent error - the Chinese factory where Athearn cars/engines are now made copied the artist rendering for the RTR Wabash standard caboose a little too literally. The drawing showed the side windows as blank white rectangles...so the factory glazed over the windows and painted them white to match the drawing! One of the funniest errors in my opinion. Athearn offered a recall on these and has rerun them corrected.
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Posted - February 05 2011 : 08:45:13 AM
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hey I like that Wabash one the windows look like they were covered up by the railroad like a anti-theft Cause back when the wide cab cabooses were made & after their windows were covered up with a sheet of steel Even old ones were covered Still see that on old caboose floating around 
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Posted - February 05 2011 : 11:02:05 PM
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| How about the GP38 BN with the reversed nose stripes
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Posted - February 06 2011 : 11:59:45 AM
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Heh, after I posted about the GN hopper I got thinking "that ain't completely right", ha ha. I got the elements mixed up.
So it's the reporting marks that are ridiculously huge, and the incorrectly added instructions / art labeling that got printed the right size. Still pretty funny. I don't know if this was ever corrected in subsequent runs.
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Posted - February 06 2011 : 12:08:46 PM
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Oh and NYC, thanks... that finally puts the mystery of this caboose to rest ;)
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Posted - March 31 2012 : 2:30:44 PM
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I hate to be the barer of bad news but the listing for this one:
B&O PB1 - no lettering
ISN'T a mistake! (Thats if the B&O EVER had the PA or PB-1's.....) They in the very beginning, when they had E-8A's and E-8B's, the "B" units NEVER had lettering nor a number, they were considered one in the B&O rosters! So say you had an "AB" set, the A unit has "1428" on it, the B unit was classed the same number!
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Posted - March 31 2012 : 10:01:17 PM
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Ahh but the Athearn PB1 was produced with lettering as standard. The unlettered version is thus considered a factory error.
Larry
Edited by - SOU2645 on March 31 2012 10:03:19 PM
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Posted - April 01 2012 : 3:47:15 PM
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Thats interesting! So the B units had lettering and numbers too?
Sadly, they do make a good looking set of engines, but the B&O never had PA's or PB's, only FA and FB's......
I think Athearn was trying to make the PA and PB be a "set-in" EA/EB........
Just like the Athearn DD40, (More of a DD35 actually) BUT they painted it in B&O and gave it a 8500 number series which would make it a set-in for an SD50!
Funny how that works!
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Posted - April 01 2012 : 3:48:56 PM
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Ohhh dang it, I forgot to ask......Athearn did they EVER make a correctly painted B&O SW-7? Without the white lettering, that was to be yellow? 
I'd actually like to get my hands on a Athearn bb Chessie System SW-7 shell! Both cow and a calf, as I have multiple frames for them!
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Posted - April 02 2012 : 9:13:16 PM
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I think the very last runs of the B&O units had "Baltimore and Ohio" spelled out in gold. I know they did them in white too fully lettered versus "B&O". I have the Chessie set in my collection. Hard to find usually.
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Posted - April 02 2012 : 10:06:38 PM
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quote:I think the very last runs of the B&O units had "Baltimore and Ohio" spelled out in gold. I know they did them in white too fully lettered versus "B&O". I have the Chessie set in my collection. Hard to find usually.
Larry
Originally posted by SOU2645Â -Â April 02 2012Â :Â 9:13:16 PM
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Actually, I thought the all blue shells have "B&O" in white with a white side sill stripe?
I thought that the "Baltimore And Ohio" would be in yellow with a yellow side sill stripe, and possibly have a more thin yellow stripe above the "Baltimore And Ohio"....Which would be correct.....BUT it be better to have the "B&O in yellow with the yellow side sill if nothing else.....
Interesting, I bet those are rare too.....
I've seen the Chessie System SW-7's by Athearn, but never been able to get my hands on a cow, or even a calf, never mind both to make a set! 
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Posted - April 03 2012 : 08:05:49 AM
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Wierd. I have one of those error PB1 shells. Came in an auction lot as a powered B and I swapped an A shell onto the drive. Turns out the frames differ a little, but it worked out okay.
I have the B&O GP35 with white lettering, too. But there were a lot of goofs, changes, and just plain fantasy lettering done to try to sell more product over the years. I've picked up a few cars that aren't supposed to exist at all, but there they are with no reason to believe they aren't factory - one good one was a 1964 train set piece, the 40' flat car with one trailer. Book lists out three train set roadnames and five kit roadnames including undec - I had three of them clearly factory assembled in Union Pacific, which was not one of the names the books show. All were from the same estate auction. It probably just amounted to grabbing whatever was handy to get the last ones out the door, or something like that.
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Posted - April 08 2012 : 01:02:22 AM
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I forgot to mention I got a SCL Athearn UboatB (Not sure of its actual destination), but the "Seaboard Coast Line" on one side is above the top yellow stripe!
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Posted - April 15 2013 : 04:37:42 AM
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quote:I forgot to mention I got a SCL Athearn UboatB (Not sure of its actual destination), but the "Seaboard Coast Line" on one side is above the top yellow stripe!
Originally posted by EM-1Â -Â April 08 2012Â :Â 01:02:22 AM
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That's right, the other side is wrong!
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Posted - April 15 2013 : 04:52:58 AM
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quote: quote:I forgot to mention I got a SCL Athearn UboatB (Not sure of its actual destination), but the "Seaboard Coast Line" on one side is above the top yellow stripe!
Originally posted by EM-1Â -Â April 08 2012Â :Â 01:02:22 AM
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That's right, the other side is wrong!
Originally posted by gmoney - April 15 2013 : 04:37:42 AM
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UH, WHOA... take note of the two dates... April 8 2012 & April 15 2013.
Is the remark "...My two cents worth..." going to be out of style, since the penny is going that way?
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Posted - April 16 2013 : 07:32:44 AM
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| FWIW, the EL S12 with the logo backwards I've seen a few of, they must have run a bunch.
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Posted - June 07 2013 : 5:55:30 PM
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quote:Ive documented several errors and goofs that arent listed in the Krause book.
examples:
NS Auto box car with "N" upside down in logo on both sides
ATSF U33C without pinstripes (except on cab) and yellow frame stripe on both sides
D&H PA1 completely unlettered/numbered
ATSF GP30 unnumbered
the aforementioned B&O GP35
SAL 40' flat car with data errors
GN S12 with both roadnumbers 25 and 28
Hustler in solid silver with no red stripes or number.
B&O FP45 with 9856 on one side of cab - 9859 on other.
etc.
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Originally posted by SOU2645Â -Â April 05 2012Â :Â 08:00:14 AM
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