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 Posted - November 13 2010 : 09:57:24 AM
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Hi All,
Does anyone have any info on this set? The locomotive is marked Tyco Mantua 2231
I see only a few resources online.
One old ad seems to indicate this is a set from the mid 1950s and another website seems to indicate that these cars are "lost cars" that either were never produced or that we don't have examples of?
Here are my photos
/tyco/forum/uploaded/superunderdoggie/Summer2010andtrainpics130.jpg
/tyco/forum/uploaded/superunderdoggie/Summer2010andtrainpics131.jpg
/tyco/forum/uploaded/superunderdoggie/Summer2010andtrainpics132.jpg
/tyco/forum/uploaded/superunderdoggie/Summer2010andtrainpics135.jpg
Here are the websites with the ads and the "lost cars" story.
http://ho-scaletrains.net/tycotrains/id1.html
Lost cars at the bottom
http://www.ho-scaletrains.net/tycobrownboxpassengercars/id100.html
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Posted - November 13 2010 : 10:13:27 AM
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i thought that colour scheme was mantuas,but will stand corrected ken
http://www.tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7544&SearchTerms=tyco+shark
http://www.hoseeker.net/tycoinformation/tycocatalog50page1.jpg
http://www.hoseeker.net/tycoinformation/tycocatalog50page2.jpg
http://www.hoseeker.net/tycoinformation/tycocatalog50page3.jpg
Edited by - catfordken on November 13 2010 10:26:47 AM
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Posted - November 13 2010 : 12:58:01 PM
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Thanks very much!
Any idea on value for this?
How about the accessories? Anyone recognize any of them? Thanks again.
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Posted - November 13 2010 : 1:16:10 PM
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the accesories look O or 027 gauge to me Could be Marx too 
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Posted - November 13 2010 : 4:04:12 PM
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Hi,
I know the quote you are referring to about the "lost cars". That statement was made to signify that the body styles that were pictured were never produced in that roadname, he is not referring to this road name per se. Just went back to that site to see what was pictured there. Those 4 body styles weren't produced at that time althought the "Tyco Streamliner" roadname was. You have the 3 cars they produced during that period which are, in order you have them lashed up, coach-combine-observation cars.
The passenger cars were made 1955-1957 and were sold individually those years. In 1956 and 1957 the 3 cars you have were sold as a set with the engine you have. So I would say these are 56 or 57.
/tyco/forum/uploaded/new_york_central/20101113155957_TycoStreamlineCatalog1956.jpg
More info on the sharks from the 50's. http://www.tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=7544
Todd
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Posted - November 13 2010 : 5:13:15 PM
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Thanks Todd. I collect old Mego toys and other stuff from the 70s but these trains are new to me. These were a friend of the family's who has no relatives so she donated them to a local church. I paid about $70 for everything figuring if nothing else the money would help the church. I'll probably just sell them and see what I can get for them but I like to know what I'm selling before I list it.
The thought though is that now that I've held them in my hands I think these old trains are pretty cool! I could see myself starting a collection of these too!
Its fun to learn and I always appreciate those that are in the hobby and take time to school us rookies.
Best,
superunderdoggie
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Posted - November 13 2010 : 5:28:26 PM
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| my advice for what its worth is to keep em,i would not sell at the moment if ever as you say they are cool and part of history that will not be repeated,for better or for worse ken
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Posted - November 13 2010 : 5:48:02 PM
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Todd's information is correct. I have a set of those in original boxes, and I think yours *should* have the "Tyco Streamliner" herald on the letterbands. Although I have also seen these made with "Santa Fe" and "Baltimore and Ohio" lettering, in the same color scheme (which was grossly incorrect for either one, oops).
The original decals were thick adhesive plastic film, similar to generic clear tape. It tends to peel up and leave a nasty residue.
If you are interested in restoring the lettering, I may be able to help. I have restored and refurbished several sets of these cars, and can make decals for the "Tyco Streamliner" bands. They won't be the thick film of the originals, but will restore the cosmetic appearance.
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Posted - November 16 2010 : 08:05:06 AM
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| That sounds awesome Spider. Thanks! I'll send you a PM.
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Posted - November 16 2010 : 5:56:56 PM
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The little orange car is made by Barclay.. Carl
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Posted - November 16 2010 : 7:29:09 PM
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quote:| The little orange car is made by Barclay |
Yeah I believe its part of a Truck auto carrier set They quite collectable too
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