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Here is a photo of Frankford Station long ago.
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Posted - October 28 2010 : 6:38:02 PM
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 neato Love the Tyco loco *wants*  I has that Matchbox garbage truck in 2 forms 1 is Matchbox other is a plastic Marx one
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Posted - October 28 2010 : 6:41:05 PM
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| nice old timers scenario ken
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Posted - October 28 2010 : 7:01:54 PM
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Here 's my Denver and Rio Grand 4-8-0
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Posted - October 28 2010 : 7:13:12 PM
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frank snap,but i see you are driving yours ken
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Posted - October 28 2010 : 8:00:01 PM
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Now this is a Tyco General I painted for the ANNA RR. Old # 33. It sit at the center of town. A old photo of a old layout of mine.
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Posted - October 28 2010 : 8:18:22 PM
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frank when i first joined this site it was my avatar ken
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Posted - October 28 2010 : 8:52:16 PM
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here is the western and Alantic 4-6-0 with my Fancy stack.
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Posted - October 28 2010 : 9:28:02 PM
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Hi Frank. Here is the original one, 1940's Mantua 8 Ball Mogul... Carl
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Carl ; Nice 8 Ball. I had a few. I never had the Bell of the 80's. I held some at shows but never made the purchase. I still have a few 0-4-0 camelbacks. In the larger brass and cast just a pacific. no consolidation or alantic. My son has the mini roller. I never has any of this line that didn't run. All ran, not bad for almost 70 year old locomotives.
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Posted - October 29 2010 : 12:14:41 AM
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neato locos guys I want one of those Tyco's 4-6-0s But  sooooo much money for it at shows 
I think those Rio Grandes are the same loco or similar from the movie Denver & Rio Grande
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Posted - October 29 2010 : 10:01:33 AM
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quote:neato locos guys I want one of those Tyco's 4-6-0s But sooooo much money for it at shows
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Gasp! You mean SOME Tycos bring big bucks? What do these 4-6-0's bring at shows, that you've seen? Are these the metal ones, or plastic? I'll keep an eye out at the Timonium show this Saturday.
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Posted - October 29 2010 : 12:38:24 PM
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one guy I went to in this past Feb he had a 4-6-0 for $100 all cause it was the Hooterville Canonball x.x I just want a plain one so I can do up one like the BTTF Not that time machine one The one that pushed the DeLorean 
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Posted - October 29 2010 : 12:43:09 PM
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here is a look up the layout towards Frankford with Stevensville up on the hill to the rear. All cars on the layout in this photo and old timers. Mostly Tyco-Mantua
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Posted - November 01 2010 : 6:47:30 PM
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quote:one guy I went to in this past Feb he had a 4-6-0 for $100 all cause it was the Hooterville Canonball x.x I just want a plain one so I can do up one like the BTTF Not that time machine one The one that pushed the DeLorean
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If all he had was the locomotive it is the big collector valued thing. The train set boxed is. It is the Petty Coat Junction train set. Especialy one with all its paper work with a like new box and trains looking great. The loco and cars were sold seperatly. 100 is to high for just the loco alone. With the unboxed ATSF and W&A versions going ususlly at 30 to 40. A unboxed cannon ball in good shape should top out at 55 0r 60. That man at the shows end most likely got to take his loco home with him. If enough people handled it missing some parts. But there is always that someeone who for his own reasons would buy it at 100. They are few and far between.
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Posted - November 04 2010 : 6:10:53 PM
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Tyco old timers goes on.
Here a P&R camelback switcher works the coal mine sideings at Upper Snake Gultch.
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Posted - November 04 2010 : 8:42:55 PM
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Two today.
Here is another of my favorite photos.
The Petty Coat Junction set : The locomotive Cannonball with its passenger train.
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Posted - November 08 2010 : 11:00:01 AM
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BPS&D passenger train train. Locomotive IRON HORSE. This set was taken from the Movie Iron Horse. The one about the building of the first Transcontinental railroad.
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Posted - November 08 2010 : 12:58:36 PM
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I seen a 4-6-0 for $130 at train show Also I saw a TycoKit for a 4-4-0 was $45 All I got was this broken one
Reson those 4-6-0s go for so much is cause of either TV or Disney on it Seen lotta CF&W & SF & D passenger cars there Also too much $$$ x.x
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quote:
Bus dont fret. You have most of it. Should get that one running in a short while. The motor is there , isn't it. Also does the motor turn with power. Make sure you take it out before you attempt to run the motor. put a drop of oil on both shaft ends first, and turn armiture by hand to make sure it moves freely before applying power.
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Posted - November 08 2010 : 1:47:51 PM
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Bus : I see a wire coming out of the boiler. To me it looks like a motor is there. you need a cab, bell, smoke stack, and a tender fuel insert..
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Posted - November 08 2010 : 2:23:10 PM
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also the front door on the boiler is missing too
What KIND of oil should I use on locos?
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Posted - November 08 2010 : 3:09:00 PM
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quote:also the front door on the boiler is missing too
What KIND of oil should I use on locos?
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The smoke box front and the little top to the headlight are hard to get.
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| Really nice stuff there, guys!
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Posted - November 08 2010 : 11:43:20 PM
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| Some nice shots here Frank. I've been wanting to make a mini layout for a while now. I bet an old time layout would be fun. Those Tyco 1800's steamers and passenger cars have such an awesome, nostalgic vibe. Now all I need to do is find some
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Posted - November 09 2010 : 11:37:42 AM
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HERE is a ATSF passenger train
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Posted - November 19 2010 : 12:26:24 PM
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Here is a General I painted for the CRR of NJ. This is the Locomotive ESSEX #19.
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Posted - November 19 2010 : 1:02:07 PM
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well the only other Old Time locos I has are plastic wall hangings & that doesn't count
btw? What DO C & FW & BPS & D mean anyway? 
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Posted - November 22 2010 : 6:30:51 PM
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Another General. Western and Alantic RR
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Posted - December 03 2010 : 1:34:43 PM
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TYCO old time 4-8-0 Central Pacific with passenger train.
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Posted - December 03 2010 : 2:17:31 PM
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Eight trains at Frankford.
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Posted - December 03 2010 : 5:35:23 PM
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^^^^^ All I can say is just - WOW!
(reminds me of the cover on an old Great World of Model Railroading mag)
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Posted - December 03 2010 : 6:01:23 PM
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Realy all that happned to the photo was I kept on trying to get a bad photo to look good that I totaly wrecked it. To save it I used Max saturation and that is the results.
Here is a better photo of the UP train alongside a BPS&D train to it's left and a ATSF train coning up on it's right side.
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quote:well the only other Old Time locos I has are plastic wall hangings & that doesn't count
btw? What DO C & FW & BPS & D mean anyway?
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Hey Buss: C&FW - Cincinnati, and Fort Worth RR
BPS&D -Buffalo Pass, Scaloplock, and Defiance RR
The other hard one is.
DSP&PRR - Denver, South Park, and Pacific RR.
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Posted - December 14 2010 : 6:35:57 PM
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thanks toptrain The DSP&PRR THAT one I knew already Cause I likes Colorado Narrow Gauge stuff
& thanks for posting that one complete Western & Atlantic loco Least I knows what mine is suppsed to look like
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My Christmas Trains on the Layout. A look back on the storage tracks Behind the main office and Museum.
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Yard photo. Six passenger trains. Left to right. Western and Atlantic, Cincinatti and Fort Worth, Santa Fe and Disneyland, Pennnsylvania RR, Baltimore and Ohio, and the ATSF.
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Posted - December 28 2010 : 10:23:27 PM
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With collections like this and others that I see on this board, I will NEVER understand the prejudice against Tyco trains. Who started that BS anyway?
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quote:With collections like this and others that I see on this board, I will NEVER understand the prejudice against Tyco trains. Who started that BS anyway?
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Well, it's like the difference between cut glass collectors and crystal collectors. they both look pretty, but the crystal is more expensive and has a nice ring to it. Glass is glass. Tyco is Tyco. People like it, but it will never be in the same catagory as other HO jewels. The fun is there, but the quality sometimes lacks. It's all in what you like, really. And can afford.
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I've been at this a long time and have had trains big and small, expensive and not, made in the USA, China, Germany, Yugoslavia, you name it ... I actually like it all. I guess I just don't like it when snobby people look down on me for having fun my way 
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Posted - January 03 2011 : 10:16:07 AM
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Dave ; Jerry knows. We save more memories than trains. The train reminds us of a certain date time and who was there.
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quote:Dave ; Jerry knows. We save more memories than trains. The train reminds us of a certain date time and who was there.
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Yes, exactly!
I don't know why, but the hatred toward Tyco has been bothering me lately. Maybe because I'm about to breath new life into my Chattanooga GP20 and I'm excited about it. I found some posts on other forums, but the one below kind of gave me the real scoop. Someone had asked "What's wrong with Tyco?" on a forum geared toward the modeling crowd. Some of the responses were the typical "junk ... toys" ... other responses were downright venomous some and others were more open minded. It seems to me that those who are into what they call "fine modeling" are the least impressed with Tyco and then others just seem to "follow the crowd at chow time" and repeat the sentiment because it's popular. For me, it's the opposite. While I respect and appreciate their craft and attention to detail, I'd rather model a little bit but focus on running the trains, have as much fun as possible, let the imagination run wild and of course, let the memories come running back. Here's the link ~ Dave:
http://www.modelgeeks.com/Uwe/Forum.aspx/rail/5687/What-s-wrong-with-Tyco
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* Dave pay no attention to loudmouths. They will always be there. There are forums where if you say anything about not liking or not using DCC. their goon squads attack you. It starts with them trying to convert you. All you need to say is " My Non DCC Layout" in naming your post. It attracts them like flies to whatever attracts them. The title has nothing to do with running DCC, but they come anyway looking for converts. They say things like " It's cheaper in the long run". You can do so much more. The sound is superior to anything else.
* I run my trains in my home. My wife rules here. Even if I had sound I could never turn it up to where you could appreciate it. So sound is out. I have always block wired my layouts and DCC separate control is way, way, way more expensive. My 400 + powered units and multiple switches make a change to expensive. Even their choice of track makes no sense to me. I tried running on nickel silver and the smaller code 86 on whatever it is. Too much gouie black stuff build up. It is harder to remove than what brass build up is. Just running trains on brass seems to keep it clean. The black seems to come from the plastic wheels. So it must be causing them to wear out, or kind of melt. Nickel Silver is not as good a conductor as brass so higher resistance, and power loss is a problem. Many more derailments with the small code track. To many of my cherished older locomotives cant run on the smaller track. DCC just doesn't work for me. I use brass track on my layout that is over 40 years old. My trains run. I have no problem. At 40 to 50 dollars a chip times 400 that is a lot of money. That does not cover DCCing my layout or rolling stock. Also you have to remember the amunt of work and time needed to do the work. Most clubs now demand everything that runs on their layouts to have metal wheels. That is even more added expense. 2,000 cars converted to metal wheels. How is this cheeper in the long run? We both turn on the power and run our trains. That is enough for me.
* Like I said the goon squad attacked. Started arguments and had their friends close the thread because of the controversy. You must remember it is always them the DCCers coming into a non DCC thread that starts the trouble. For them it is convert or we will get rid of you. Very unfriendly. For DC modelers there are forums out there that you cannot be a part of.
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quote:| I don't know why, but the hatred toward Tyco has been bothering me lately. Maybe because I'm about to breath new life into my Chattanooga GP20 and I'm excited about it. I found some posts on other forums, but the one below kind of gave me the real scoop. Someone had asked "What's wrong with Tyco?" on a forum geared toward the modeling crowd. Some of the responses were the typical "junk ... toys" ... other responses were downright venomous some and others were more open minded. It seems to me that those who are into what they call "fine modeling" are the least impressed with Tyco and then others just seem to "follow the crowd at chow time" and repeat the sentiment because it's popular. Originally posted by RDC1Â -Â January 03 2011Â :Â 7:41:03 PM
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That hatred is nothing new.... but to be honest, I found most of the responses on the link you provided to be pretty well-intentioned and reasoned... especially considering its age. So, I'll chip in my $0.03 as a card-carrying NMRA member who has won contests and knows all about "scale" and "prototypical" "railroad modeling": Tyco... IS... JUNK. There, I said it. There is little they made from 1973-onward that can be classified as much better. Even some of the older stuff wasn't as good as many old-timers pretend it was.
That said, take look at my own site and contributions here, and you'll soon see that "one man's junk is another man's treasure". I love my Tycos. There's a certain charm and purpose to them... as well as many baffling, inexplicable idiosyncrasies and abundant mystery. As well as a few diamonds in the rough. The same arguments that Lionel apologists go apoplectic to justify, apply to collecting and enjoying Tyco (or any other "garbage" HO, and by today's rationale anything pre-1980 may as well be garbage). And I'm no Lionel apologist.
What you must remember is Model Railroading is supremely multifaceted... and despite what the modern bloviators of Model Railroader Magazine tell you as they encourage a second mortgage for your RTR-only-stocked outbuilding empire, there is no right or wrong way to do it. To tweak what MR once used to say, Model Railroading Is (supposed to be) FUN!
So. What's wrong with Tyco? Nothing that Lionel wasn't guilty of at one time or another, aside from the inherent comparative fragility of HO vs. O scale. Lionel trains are revered by one crowd... and summarily abhorred by the same group that dismisses Tyco. It's all relative to priorities.
An interesting sentiment was shared multiple times on that thread: "How many people were turned off of model trains because of Tyco's junk"? A fair question: those POS PowerTorque engines almost ruined it for me, because my parents tired of buying replacements. My first Athearn was nothing short of a revelation and a savior. But Tyco also made the hobby accessible in its day, and created some measurable magic that was worth preserving, so that sword cuts both ways.
DC vs. DCC; Proto:87 vs. traditional HO; Brass vs. Nickel-Silver; Freelance vs. Prototypical; RTR vs Roll-your-own; Scratchbuild vs. Shake-the-box; Build-it-yourself vs. Pre-built-at-3x-the-price; Sound vs. Silent; HO vs. O vs. N vs. S vs... get the picture? The camps and arguments in model railroading are as endless as in they are passionate and justified - just like the automotive hobby.
That's a good analogy: Model Railroading is just one big eternal "Ford vs Chevy (vs Mopar vs AMC vs Europe vs Japan, etc)" debate. You eventually forge a preference and stick to what you enjoy, but hopefully grow and become more knowledgeable and respectable while keeping an open mind. So, just as a respectable "diehard Ford guy" can appreciate certain GMs (and vice versa), you realize that everything has its place and there's nothing really "wrong" with any of it. Besides, I doubt there are many Ferrari enthusiasts who don't secretly harbor a misguided affection for that first POS Vega or Falcon or Rambler or Dart or whatever abhorrent crapcan barely got them from point A to B when they first started driving - even if they won't dare admit it publicly.
So do what you like, and forget about the other crowds. Or participate in both as I do, and just recognize the rules for membership in either side.
Edited by - spiderj76 on January 05 2011 11:40:43 AM
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Posted - January 05 2011 : 11:52:34 AM
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Tony : I dont know what works for other people. They should do what makes them happy. That is what a hobby is about. Just at times it seems that some peoples hobby is throwing stones at someone elses.
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Posted - January 05 2011 : 12:39:48 PM
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Frank yeah, I've already had the bum's rush out of a forum because I won't get into DCC, mostly because of the cost and 2nd, I've had enough high technology. I've worked on the electronics for B-52, B1 & B-2 bombers; F-15, F-16, FA-18, SH-3 and SH-60 aircraft; MK-48, MK-54 and CBASS torpedoes; TOW, AMRAAM, AIM-9X and Javelin missiles. I like DC trains & block wiring because it's simple. I'm also into old bicycles. My newest bike is a 1963 Schwinn Tiger. Simplicity gives me a breather and I have nothing to prove with my trains. I just want to enjoy them.
I prefer brass too and I should have kept more than I did. I don't do the lower code track either ... why cause myself headaches when all I want is my trains to run? I think the gunk that appears on nickel silver track might have something to do with the copper and zinc in the alloy. It's a good thing that there is no real silver in it!
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Posted - January 05 2011 : 1:00:49 PM
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Dave ; We will just have to keep stumbling through life using our old ways and being happy for it.
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Posted - January 05 2011 : 1:47:15 PM
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quote:Dave ; We will just have to keep stumbling through life using our old ways and being happy for it.
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Originally posted by toptrain - January 05 2011 : 1:00:49 PM
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To the good ol' days!
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Posted - January 24 2011 : 3:38:08 PM
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* One of my favorites, naa all are my favorites, but this one I'll post a photo of now is the Denver Rio Grande 4-8-0.
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Posted - January 24 2011 : 4:00:21 PM
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| hey frank its also mine i used that as my avatar when i first joined this site,it was also my first american loco ken
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Posted - February 08 2011 : 12:54:47 PM
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The Cental Pacific passengr set. Went to catfordken.
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