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While sorting thru inventory at work, I ran across some push-pin rivets, ie they have a rod and head, and two jaws, and when you push the pin in, it splits the jaws wider, and holds the two pieces of whatever together. Well, these are 3mm, plastic, and small. I took one of my tyco 3-axle tankers to work and tried it out. hey, it worked! Here's the photo sequence of what it looks like after this repair.
Now, one thing, the rivets are only shallow, and they hold, but not so you can't pull them off. I'm wondering if I can find longer shaft of this type. Probably. Anyway, it works, so I'll use it for now. On with the show -



This shows what the rivets look like, and that I cut off the broken truck retaining pins, and cut them as flush as I could get.




Here you see the rivet flush with the bottom of the truck, and it does a nice job of holding the truck to the tanker. Again, it's just a friction fit, but it's better than what you have with the broken hold-in pins.



here's what it looks like from the side. Since it's only adding less than 1/8 inch to locating the truck under the tanker outward, it really isn't noticeable that its' shifted much. I'm using one of the two holes on either side of the former pin stud on the truck. Actually the one closest to the middle axle. It swivels fine, and you have to work to get it to come out. So I consider this a win-win at this point. Longer rivets would probably work better, but as long as you don't' get violent with the movement, I think it'll stay ok with even this shallow a rivet. If anyone wants some to try, I can put a couple in a standard mailing envelope for 43 cents and mail them to you. We apparently don't use this item any more, so they're going to become "excess inventory". And I'm the inventory manager for the old legacy products. Less stuff to keep track of! I'll have to see who we bought them from last. But a search on plastic push-pin rivets should find something like this. So save those old broken 3-axle trucks and reuse them.

Jerry Casper
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hey uh? Did you have to drill holes for the pins? Cause I want a few
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hey uh? Did you have to drill holes for the pins? Cause I want a few

Originally posted by microbusss - October 22 2010 :  09:32:00 AM



No. They fit the original hole perfectly. No drilling needed.

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best help for a lot of tyconuts i have seen for a long time apart from the tutorials of courseken
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I've found yet another solution to the 3-axle tanker truck issue - Cranes! No, not wading birds...I just got a lot off Ebay, for the Lionel Hustler, and in it is a Tyco Santa Fe crane - with 3-axle trucks. EXACT same as the tanker,I compared them. And I've seen lots of beat-up decrepit cranes on Ebay for c-h-e-a-p. I'll be looking at the next few train shows for more of these cranes, since they are exact replacements, should be able to find a few cheap. Not sure if anyone has noticed this before or mentioned it, but I thought it worth doing so myself, as would you rather pull 6 cranes around, or 6 tankers? So I don't think the cost to acquire broken cranes would be high, to get the desired parts off it. You heard it here!

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Thanks for the tip Jerry,

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The rivet idea is a good one, as it could theoretically be used on any molded-kingpin talgo truck.

I mentioned the crane previously, though, in one of your other posts....



http://www.tycoforums.com/tyco/forum/topic.asp?whichpage=-1&TOPIC_ID=9366&REPLY_ID=35912

The caveat I didn't make clear there is: while the crane IS a good source, I'd expect intact Gulf tankers are probably more plentiful and cheaper to boot. Usually.


Still haven't gotten around to comparing the other makes. I know Bachmann's are different. I gave a pemco version away and don't have my LL version handy.
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