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i got hold of a kleinbahn baltic,the motor is a real puller but its different ken

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mine is for the obb (austria) and yours i believe for db (germany) ken
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Are the bodies the same.
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apart from the livery yes ken

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Same one. different color wheels. your is in better condition, newer.
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mine is for the obb (austria) and yours i believe for db (germany) ken

Originally posted by catfordken - June 10 2010 :  1:48:06 PM



Toptrain has the prewar version of the BBO 729.

As Austrian railroads got part of the German Reichsbahn it was called 78.
After war BBO was changed to OBB, but kept the german number.

You both have the original Kleinbahn motor. (later changed to Mabuchi)
I have never seen one with this red front.
Must be a special for exported ones. - Erich
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thanks for the info erich,cheers ken
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Toptrain has the older metal crosshead, Ken the plastic one. - Erich
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Mine is just like kens 729 02 just red frame sides, front trucks, and wheels. It came from a old collection.
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Same one. different color wheels. your is in better condition, newer.

Originally posted by toptrain - June 10 2010 :  1:55:06 PM



Color schemes:

Pre war: black frame, red tires (729 BBO)
Wartime: red frame, red tires (78 German Reichsbahn)
Post war: black frame, red or black tires (78 BBO,OBB)

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frank erich was saying that yours is painted up for an earlier era,and yes only difference is the red paint ken
ps thanks for detailed info erich

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ERICH ; do you recoginize this drive. All axels are gear connected. the first two axels articulate. The center axel is blind.

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Sorry Toptrain, I do not know this drive. But I think its from Eastern Germany - Piko or Gutzold.
The pic (Piko) loks similar to yours. Maybe from a later more plastic updateded version. - Erich
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heres and idea,if you have any oddball motors,why not post it here ken
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Does the name Harushka ( Russian ) mean anything. I was told that was the manufacture. Also this is the smoothest runing drive I have.
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[quote]Does the name Harushka ( Russian ) mean anything. I was told that was the manufacture.
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Now we got - it its a HRUSKA! Think from Germany! - Erich
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[quote]Same one. different color wheels. your is in better condition, newer.

Originally posted by toptrain - June 10 2010 :  1:55:06 PM



Color schemes:

Pre war: BLACK FRAME, BLACK TIRES (729 BBO)
Wartime: red frame, red tires (78 German Reichsbahn)
Post war: black frame, red or black tires (78 BBO,OBB)

- Erich

Made a mistake! Pre war scheme was black frame and black tires!
sory posted during work! - Erich
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Permot

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Permot was founded by Gerhard Hruska in Glashütte (Saxony, East Germany) in 1949 and started manufacturing model railways and model railroad accessory. Later musical boxes and model plane engines were added to the range. In the late 1960s Permot had to cease production of model railways and concentrated on 1/87th scale models of commercial vehicles. Among other models, a Skoda truck was released in many different liveries.
The company was completely nationalized by the GDR in 1972 and became the state combine Prefo Betriebsteil 3. In the course of the German reunification, Gerhard Hruska regained control over the company in 1990. The range of model vehicles was extended, and Permot is now maintained as a family business in the third generation.
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Erich ; So I have a locomotive made in Germany during World War 2. I guess ti is kind of a limited run.
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Hruska next locomotive was the first there in 1963, it was a steam locomotive of the BR 84 in more detail modern plastic version for the right model.
this is your loco frank

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Erich ; So I have a locomotive made in Germany during World War 2. I guess ti is kind of a limited run.

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No Toptrain, what you have is a loco made in Austria. It was all black befor the Germans came and clored it with a red frame and red tires. After war we colored the frame back black and the tires red or black. The number on yours should be 78. But Kleinbahn dont care for this. - Erich
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hi frank,for a 60s model plenty of detail ken
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Ken ; I like the way it runs.
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