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Here's my latest flea market find:
So what is it? I'm sure the experts here can tell me exactly what I've got.
It wants to run, when I connect the loose wire. I'm working on getting it permanently fixed and cleaned up. I had to take the wheels and gears out to get the front truck off, next I've got to attach the wire and put it all back together.
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Posted - May 02 2010 : 8:42:44 PM
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neat shame about the crack on the nose 
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Posted - May 02 2010 : 9:03:37 PM
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That a drive shaft on the right to power the front truck from the rear one?
I'm thinking Varney? Chassis, shell I don't know, plastic right?
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Posted - May 02 2010 : 9:10:58 PM
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Hi B77. You have probably have a Lifelike engine using Pennline molds . Likelike purchased the Molds in the 1960's. Due to the Penn Central road late 1960's. Too bad shell is Cracked  Carl
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Edited by - VintageHO on May 02 2010 9:14:08 PM
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Posted - May 02 2010 : 9:12:44 PM
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Hey Carl:
So the chassis is effectively Pennline? Hmmm. No Varney ancestry there?
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Posted - May 02 2010 : 9:19:19 PM
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Hi Gareth. Varney and Pennline did share some Chassis designs. The road name kind of dates the engine. Still checking for more info.. Have to go down to the Vault.. Carl
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Posted - May 02 2010 : 9:34:33 PM
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my latest project bowser pennsy g5 with super detail kit ken
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Posted - May 02 2010 : 9:36:51 PM
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Hey Ken:
In the bare it looks a littlw "Q1" Austerity-ish don't you think?
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Posted - May 02 2010 : 9:48:08 PM
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| yeah it does a bit,ken
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Posted - May 02 2010 : 11:32:23 PM
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quote: my latest flea market find:
So what is it? I'm sure the experts here can tell me exactly what I've got.
Originally posted by burlington77Â -Â May 02 2010Â :Â 8:35:09 PM
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I just bought a box-lot of dummy loco's on Ebay, I really bought the lot for one of them, an F7? diesel with an unpainted translucent shell. Turns out they're pretty much all Penn line, I recognize the 3 slots in the middle of the body shell now , like on yours. If you are interested in a shell for your chassis, I have a yellow UP F7? like your Penn Central available ( I'm not a UP fan ). I do have a maroon Pennsylvania shell, but I"m keeping that one. Every thing else are B unit dummies. I have Milwaukee and UP versions of those.
So don't despair, I can help out if needed. :) I found a NEAT website on Penn Line history, here :
http://www.hoseeker.org/pennline/pennlinehistory/early.html
Very neat to read about, Bowser in Montoursville, PA now has some of their molds and makes some of the old Penn Line products themselves. Nice find, if you didn't pay much for it. There's two Penn Line GG1's on Ebay for sale, apparently because they have the cast zinc shell, they're heavy, run well, and are very desireable to collectors. one's at $26, the other at $50 right now.
Anyway, if you're interested in a UP shell for your chassis, let me know.
Jerry in Virginia, USA
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Posted - May 02 2010 : 11:50:33 PM
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MY LOCO OF THE WEEK IS A BAD ORDER SUFFERING FROM SEVERE ZINC PEST/ROT - MINT BACHMANN U25C AUTO TRAIN -NEW - OR IT WAS AT ONE TIME GO TO BACHMANN SECTION ON FORUM FOR MORE PICS
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Posted - May 02 2010 : 11:53:14 PM
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ok I'll post my $5 train set loco find 
USRA 0-6-0 with tender by Bachmann
Neat Auto-Train loco
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Posted - May 03 2010 : 11:03:37 AM
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To the OP:
Yep, you've got an early Life-Like or late Varney F7 diesel (Varney became Life-Like in 1971). The shell is former Penn-Line tooling, and is clearly cribbed from the Athearn F7. The drive is derived from the old Varney F3 and as such will be noisy, but fairly bulletproof.
The motor is the same as those used in Varney steam locomotives.
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Posted - May 05 2010 : 12:04:55 AM
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Thanks to all who commented on my mystery locomotive. I've got a couple shells that would fit it, but I'll probably keep the Penn Central shell, warts and all. I only paid 5 bucks for it along with a couple pieces of rolling stock, so as far as I'm concerned it was a good deal.
And for those who asked...yes, that is a drive shaft to power the front trucks. I had to remove it to remove the front truck. I've got to reconnect some wires, but I think that's all it really needs, aside from a good cleaning. I'll update my progress when I get time to work on it.
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Posted - May 08 2010 : 11:39:02 AM
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Here's my first all-metal Mantua steam engine, just got thru an Ebay purchase. Doesn't run, so will have to disassemble it to check it out.
Has a big wire hanging loose at the tender junction, might need to hook that up for it to work? Not battlescarred, it's in rather nice shape, actually. HOpe it runs good once I look it over and get into it some.
Jerry
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Posted - May 10 2010 : 01:57:18 AM
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quote:MY LOCO OF THE WEEK IS A BAD ORDER SUFFERING FROM SEVERE ZINC PEST/ROT - MINT BACHMANN U25C AUTO TRAIN -NEW - OR IT WAS AT ONE TIME GO TO BACHMANN SECTION ON FORUM FOR MORE PICS
Originally posted by Brianstyco - May 02 2010 : 11:50:33 PM
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I love this engine Brain. Its actually a Bachmann U36B.
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Posted - May 12 2010 : 11:05:25 AM
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"Has a big wire hanging loose at the tender junction, might need to hook that up for it to work? Not battlescarred, it's in rather nice shape, actually. HOpe it runs good once I look it over and get into it some."
That engine should run. The wire goes under the tender drawbar screw. It really should have an eyelet or something on it.
Touch your power supply to the wire and the engine frame. The Tyco motor should run like a bandit. I can see from the gear that you should disassemble the engine (screw down the stack) and give the whole mechanism a bath in something like naphtha to clean off old dirt and grease. There is no plastic on the chassis so you needn't worry about harming anything. The nylon gears are impervious to most solvents I've ever used.
Once you clean up the little engine, it will run forever. We are assuming that the motor is not burned out.
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Posted - May 12 2010 : 10:42:07 PM
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quote:
That engine should run. The wire goes under the tender drawbar screw.
Touch your power supply to the wire and the engine frame. The Tyco motor should run like a bandit. I can see from the gear that you should disassemble the engine (screw down the stack) and give the whole mechanism a bath...There is no plastic on the chassis so you needn't worry about harming anything. The nylon gears are impervious to most solvents I've ever used.
Once you clean up the little engine, it will run forever. We are assuming that the motor is not burned out.
Originally posted by LIGuy45Â -Â May 12 2010Â :Â 11:05:25 AM
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Thanks for the tips, I'll take it apart and see what's up with it. I already hooked up the big wire to the junction as you said, but no fire. So I'll disassemble it to look inside next.
Jerry
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Posted - May 14 2010 : 3:58:12 PM
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Here's the latest on my locomotive in the original post:
It ran well for a while, but now the gears aren't meshing. It will roll along, then stall and you can hear a zipping sound as the top gear spins agains the bottom. I ran it with no shell to confirm this. So I don't know...worn out gears?
As for its maker, I kind of had a "Duh" moment when I realized that the rolling stock that came with it was all clearly labeled Varney. That doesn't mean it HAS to be Varney, but usually I find these things at flea markets as original sets, so there' s a good chance.
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Posted - May 14 2010 : 5:58:41 PM
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B77, check the motor mounting screws and make sure they haven't loosened up, because that's usually what causes the gears to come out of mesh. If it's been run that way too much, the teeth may be stripped.
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Posted - May 16 2010 : 8:49:37 PM
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Okay, time for disappointment. On closer inspection, the motor has a major problem. The plastic housing at the top is broken where the metal clip for one of the brushes attaches (if that makes any sense). The brush will sort of hang on the broken part, but not really securely. The motor will spin, but it's hanging by a thread. Still not sure about the gears, but at this point I don't think it's worth much effort. I'm just retiring it to the shelf for now.
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