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Erich
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Found this in a shop window in Vienna. Its very big, think it´s 1.

Any ideas? - Erich
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oh wow its the old Marx train or its something else & I should know I see that alot in magazines but I think its a pre-WW2 toy not sure
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Without seeing better pictures. It is definatly Prewar Standard Gauge Could be Lionel or Ives or American Flyer. I would lean towards Ives. Carl
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this could be it says ives,the overheads are different,so its possible erichs one is a later version by ives or lionel ken

http://www.collectorsquest.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/milw-lionel-rrc-13.jpg

http://www.collectorsquest.com/blog/tag/add-new-tag/

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I think that the PL loco was made by the German firm Bing.
A lot of German trains were imported to America before WW1.
And Erich, I think you're right about it being #1 gauge.

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Edited by - choochin3 on April 25 2010 2:25:43 PM
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i still think the original model was an ives but according to this link bing copied a lot of other makers goods and as erich is in the right area,could well be a bing copy of an ives ken
http://www.tcawestern.org/bing.htm#bing
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Gauge 1 was popular in the U.S. until Standard Gauge overtook it in the 1920's. The Diecast construction makes me think it is a Gauge 1 Ives. I don't know how correct the pantographs or wiring to them are. Perhaps it was modified to operate from a live overhead wire.
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I am not a rivit counter but it is a model based on a New York Central loco. I think an S2 electric. Funny it's decorated for Pennsylvania.
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I think X2F is right about the pantographs,and wiring not being factory made.
I'm still thinking it's a Bing loco.

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as i said its a bing copy of an ives,ken

http://www.goldentrains.com/americas%20greatest%20toy%20tains.htm

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erichs photo has wires going to where bells are on this bing s2
Edited by - catfordken on April 26 2010 06:46:27 AM
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Sorry for the bad pics, but the opening times of the shop are fare away from being customer friendly. Maybe I can get better pics. - Erich
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Wow! I stand corrected. I never knew Bing made this particular model of electric engine. It has always been one of my favorite locos. I believe the prototype was in service up threw the 1970's. They pulled passenger trains into New York City after steam was banned in the early 1900's. Thanks for that great picture.
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