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 Posted - December 11 2009 : 05:31:52 AM
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one of the hardest cars i find to get are these style of milk cars (butter dish),having seen loads behind steam train videos,thought i would get some,cant find any,help to push in right direction ken
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Posted - December 11 2009 : 07:04:56 AM
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you want this in HO or what?  Cause I'll look in Feb 20th when I go to train show  but do it matter what they say?
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Posted - December 11 2009 : 07:15:50 AM
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| hi can always alter name if needed,not in hurry many thanks,ken
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Posted - December 11 2009 : 11:57:52 AM
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i've never seen one of those. looks cool. different but cool.
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Posted - December 11 2009 : 1:21:59 PM
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The only ones that come to mind in HO are the craftsman kits by Funaro & Camerlengo. You're going to pay for the privilege and have a time putting them together, but they're out there...
http://www.fandckits.com/
Their site is kinda wonky. Click "HO Kits" then "Milk Cars" and look at kits #1010-1014. Seems the main difference is the color of decals, which are otherwise identical.
/tyco/forum/uploaded/goingincirclez/1010thumb.jpg
/tyco/forum/uploaded/goingincirclez/1011thumb.jpg
/tyco/forum/uploaded/goingincirclez/1012thumb.gif
According to their site, the above were only used thru the '50's, but this last one made it through the 70's?
/tyco/forum/uploaded/goingincirclez/1014thumb.jpg
Note the high-speed trucks. Makes sense for this type of car, but would have limited its usage and appearance in most trains. You wouldn't have normally seen them in a freight drag, that's for sure.
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Posted - December 11 2009 : 1:54:11 PM
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| They've been offered many times over the years in brass...other than that they've only been in kits like GIC said. Look for Ambroid, Red Ball and Silver Streak kits on Ebay.
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Posted - December 11 2009 : 1:58:06 PM
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seems funny that behind all the steam loco videos i have watched was one of these,but smaller,so why so hard to get,if i am right ones above are diesel era,steam look smaller,weird ken
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Posted - December 11 2009 : 3:20:06 PM
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I haven't seen any videos to directly comment. But it seems and stands to note that many types of freight cars were smaller in the steam era, through the first few decades of the 20th Century...
...that said, even if the cars shown above date to the 40'5 and 50's, that's technically the transition era so they may indeed have been behind steam at some point.
The design seems fairly unique and low profile. Given the constant curvature up and away from the base, it may be they just "seem" smaller than they actually are?
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Posted - December 11 2009 : 5:04:25 PM
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have found the ones i want ,gonna make one myself from scratch looks similar to one in photo,just one on a fame the same size,ken
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Posted - December 11 2009 : 5:50:10 PM
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Ken:
Check your gmail account!
-Gareth
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Posted - December 11 2009 : 5:53:28 PM
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| done cheers
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Posted - December 11 2009 : 6:03:34 PM
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Borden cars, well for the skilled! 
Enjoy Children,
gareth
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Posted - December 11 2009 : 10:40:58 PM
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quote:Borden cars, well for the skilled!
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Enjoy Children,
gareth
Originally posted by romcat-December 11 2009: 6:03:34 PM
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Teacher...Teacher!! Could you measure the lined border on page two so that us children have an idea as to what size we'll need to reduce it to? 
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Posted - December 12 2009 : 03:55:56 AM
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Hey SG:
I would if I could find the original. should be able to scale it from the width as a known dimension right?
I can't rememnber what I did with those issues. One went in with the Lionel Alco FA drivetrain I sent you. The others were in pretty bad shape so i may have trashed them... that was kinda the point of scanning them so i could trash the bad/moldy ones.
If I can't find the hard copy any body suggest how this may be scaled? I have several more of these article/patterns if anyone is interested I'll post them...
SG; did you parcel arrive yet?
-Gareth
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Posted - December 12 2009 : 06:19:54 AM
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From the article: "The length, measured across the top of the tank, is five inches." Print it out and see if it's five inches. On my printer it prints out 4 5/8", so scale it 108% and it prints out properly.
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My still in progress list of inventory and wantlist: tyconut.com
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Posted - January 09 2010 : 10:03:15 AM
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Hey Shaygetz:
I found another copy of these articles and measured the border. It's consistantly 7 inches.
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