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 Posted - November 11 2009 : 3:39:29 PM
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Nice idea for a new wheelarangement! 
Sorry for bad quality of pics, but shooting it in the dark room with the model behind glass was a bit difficoult! - Erich
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 Posted - November 11 2009 : 5:57:13 PM
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 weird USA even tried that a few times
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Posted - November 11 2009 : 8:19:23 PM
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That's reminiscent of the Holman Horror, which turned out to be nothing more than a scam.
/tyco/forum/uploaded/NickelPlate759/baldwinholman1b.jpg
http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/holman/holman.htm
Do you know the history of that loco? Was a 1:1 version ever built?
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Posted - November 11 2009 : 8:29:02 PM
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That's just weird if you ask me! Looks like its on stilts for trains.
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Posted - November 11 2009 : 8:55:01 PM
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They added an Austrian artist's rendering of a pyramid drive like Eric's photos, but with 4 layers of wheels instead of 3, since I last looked through the site.
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http://www.dself.dsl.pipex.com/MUSEUM/LOCOLOCO/fictional/fictional.htm
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Posted - November 12 2009 : 02:26:12 AM
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HI Nelson!
Thanks for posting the link, like the other wired locos too! - Erich
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Posted - November 13 2009 : 3:17:59 PM
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Erich,
You should submit your photos to the owner of that site. It doesn't look like he knows about that working model.
Is it on exhibit at a museum?
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Posted - November 13 2009 : 7:23:50 PM
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you can't tell me someone wasn't smoken a little dope when they came up with that idea. what was they thinking? probably, "here you want hit this man."
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Posted - November 14 2009 : 11:37:41 AM
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What do you think this came from?
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Modelling the Grafton Terminal Railway, set in New Brunswick, Canada in the 1978-1984 time frame
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Posted - November 14 2009 : 1:43:07 PM
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I translated the german text as good as I could (online translation with some words changed by myself). Hope it is interessting.
Sigi Strasser made the paints and Gerhard Lehner build the model.
The model was displayed at a temporary show in a Country of Austria!
sigi strasser + gerhard lehner
off tradition and mode - uchronistische lokomotiven
28. oktober - 19. november in 2004
sigistrasser
sigistrasser, primary rocks of the Welser artist's scene, is a contemporary who positions himself vehemently and openly against the current art company - uncomfortably in his opinions, critically in his observations, in his work, nevertheless, very productively. He wants to know the presentation in two different exhibition parts splitted, on the one hand, his about him as "a Pictotope" to called material pictures and his railway objects multi-layered intertwined by stories. The Pictotope exist of found and contrived technology parts, of movable elements, workshop drawings, spannings.
Both work groups shall be seen with the retrospective.
sigistrasser (year in 1929) finds after own statement biographies and sequences of finished exhibitions inappropriate and old-fashioned. Nevertheless, would be noted that sigi strasser lives after 9-year service OeBB (Austrian Railroad) and as a graduate of the Linzer art school since 1964 as a free lance artist in Wels and works.
gerhard lehner, uchronistische (...) considerations assume from the fact that the internal combustion engine would not be been invented and the technical progress would be closely attached to the development of the steam machine. With it tied up the Perfektionierung of the steam machine would have reached another standard. To Sigi strassers visions this development would have transformed our street systems into the thick railway systems into which themselves private locomotive owners could rent them out. This part of the exhibition gives a small insight about the application possibilities of the steam locomotive.
gerhard lehner (year in 1936) is an endowed engineer, has created by his perfectionism with 10 functioning world-smallest machines the registration in the book of the records. With Lokomotivmodels deals since his youth, works since his retirement as an development ingeneur in his very well equipped workshop in Vienna.
Original Text: http://www.galeriederstadtwels.at/dok_04/strasser/strasser.html - Erich
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Posted - November 14 2009 : 2:56:22 PM
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quote:What do you think this came from?
Originally posted by graftonterminalrr-November 14 2009: 11:37:41 AM
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Probably a steam turbine like the C&O's, or the Pennsy's Big Whoosh.
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Posted - November 14 2009 : 3:09:28 PM
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Thanks for going to all that trouble, Erich. My Google toolbar automatically translated that link for me.
How those wheels are supposed to turn each other without slipping is a mystery. If the guy was really a respected engineer, you'd think he would have geared the upper sets of wheels to the drive wheels with teeth inboard of the flanges, like a pancake drive. Even that would have been a ridiculous arrangement, since you're gearing it up instead of down, increasing speed and reducing torque.  
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Posted - November 14 2009 : 3:34:34 PM
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Nelson
The design was made by the artist (a fiction just for fun) and the engineer made a model of it (maybe he was tired making models of real locos). Maybe he made some changes in the arangement of wheels and design of flanges. Unfortunately you can not see it clearly on the model. - Erich
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