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I'm sure anyone who's ever bought a Walther's Budd streamliner knows how annoying these things are. You pay nearly $50 for them, and they don't even have the stupid grab irons or decals installed. Well, I've had a trio of these sitting on my layout for a while, and I guess it's about time I got around to detailing them.

My first question is, how do the decals go on? I think it said to dip them in water, let them sit for a minute, and then put them on the car. Does the white paper they come on dissolve/dry clear?

And my second question is what size drill bit do I need for the grab irons? The smallest one I have (and that I could find at a hardware store) was a 1/32". Is that small enough, and if not, where would I find a smaller one?

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You'll be able to get a good pin vise and drill bit set at Sears in Canada, 1/32 is still too big.
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For the decals, let them soak in some room temperature water for a little bit.
Once you see the design start to peel off the paper, they can be applied to the car.

When I apply the decals to something, I use toothpicks to position them, and gently dab a cotton ball over top to absorb excess water.
Buying some Micro Sol and Micro Set would be a good help too.
Now, if they are anything like model car decals, you have to be very careful when applying them as they can rip very easily.

Once the decals are on, you might want to spray some flat clear coat over top so they look painted on.

As for the paper, it will just get wet and can be thrown out. The decals should just slide cleanly and completely off.



Hope this helps!


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Thanks guys. Each car comes with a full sheet of numbers (most aren't even for the car it came with) so I'll practice putting a few on some old shells or something. I'll have to buy some of that micro sol too.

Shaygetz: Do you know what size drill bit it is? I don't remember if the instructions gave a size or not

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Shaygetz: Do you know what size drill bit it is? I don't remember if the instructions gave a size or not

-cheez

Originally posted by DaCheez-February 01 2009: 8:49:33 PM



I always just eyeballed them next to the wire...not very technical but very effective.
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I bought a dremel drill set and a pin vise and just eyed them for a "guesstimate" of size also. My LHS had separate drill bits for sale in the popular sizes for modeling like 2-56.

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The best thing about Walthers' fancy new City Streamliner cars is their old Budd corrugated cars are yesterday's news and I've been offered a set for a pretty good deal. The IHC heavyweights I got a few months ago look a bit naff with my E7 so I'm sorely tempted.

The problem is, Walther's claim their cars'll handle 24" curves but I've heard that's a little optimistic. I'm hoping those proud owners out there or from this thread can shed light on the situation. Any info would be gratefully accepted.
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Cheez
.Lee Valley have a set of small drill bits for around $6.00. I have a set that work fine.
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hi cheez check this out,its applying to model planes but its the same in theory ken
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cue_pb-L3SU&feature=related

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quote:
The best thing about Walthers' fancy new City Streamliner cars is their old Budd corrugated cars are yesterday's news and I've been offered a set for a pretty good deal. The IHC heavyweights I got a few months ago look a bit naff with my E7 so I'm sorely tempted.

The problem is, Walther's claim their cars'll handle 24" curves but I've heard that's a little optimistic. I'm hoping those proud owners out there or from this thread can shed light on the situation. Any info would be gratefully accepted.


Hey Tykowolf. I'll have to check out those City Streamliners. I don't see why they wouldn't handle 24" curves I've ran my Walthers Budd streamliners on the outer loop of my layout (20-22" curves) and they don't derail. They do however make some interesting noises...24" probably would be better
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Thanks for the feedback, DaCheez. It's the old Budd cars I hope to get and if they cope with 22" curves then 24's a doddle. Don't know why some folks insisted they need at least 26", maybe they got the streamliners mixed up with Walthers Heavyweights? I'll report back how it all goes.
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Collected my Budd Streamliners last night and are impressed. Never doubted the Walther's cars would outclass my IHC lightweights but they are totally in another league.


Unexpected plus, they came with a free bus though perhaps free might be too strong a word! I'm pleased to report all cars handled both 22" and 24" radius curves in code 83 and 100 respectively. See below:


Well, apart from the observation car (not pictured) which squeaks a little turning right but I think it'll be sweet after running in. All up, I recommend these fine cars to those after a quality passenger consist and this thread'll even help with the super detailing! Not looking forward to that ... but it's a nice problem to have.
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I must say, those look most excellent The bus is cool too
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awesome stuff there Tykowolf Will look for bus sometime & some passenger cars for my E-7
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Most generous, DaCheez! I wouldn't've got them without your experience and input so thanks again.

Hey Busss, your City of San Fransico loco made me drag out my E7 which led to the Budd cars so it's all your fault!

The Bus is awesome. The bus is cool. We love the Bus.

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