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 Posted - January 02 2009 : 8:15:00 PM
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I was browsing through some pictures of CN passenger trains when I came across this picture. Apparently Tyco's CN F unit had somewhat of a prototype! Same number, paint scheme and engine!
http://members.fortunecity.com/rrpics/acpo/cn6536.jpg
/tyco/forum/uploaded/DaCheez/CN 6536.jpg
/tyco/forum/uploaded/DaCheez/CN 6536 001.jpg
Kinda cool to see the full-sized version of a Tyco engine, even if they aren't exactly the same
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Posted - January 02 2009 : 8:30:24 PM
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That is pretty cool! Your timing on this topic couldn't be better, as I just got my own example in a couple weeks ago:
Yet ANOTHER unique numberboard for the GenII F-7 is what caught my eye. Yet I had to wonder what made them use the GP20 number? So the answer apparently is, it was coincidentally eerily close to the number of that second unit in your picture. In fact, given the angle of the shot and similarity of the digits, it may well have looked to someone's eye like "56" instead of "65"28...
Nice find Eric!
Edited by - GoingInCirclez on January 02 2009 8:32:34 PM
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 Posted - January 02 2009 : 8:42:21 PM
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Here's another example to add to Cheez's excellent topic idea. The Tyco Burlington Norhern E7:
Always seemed to be a pure, wild, flight of fancy. BN's cab units were actually painted more like Tyco's BN Shark: solid green with black roof and white hockey-stick-stripe.
Except, apparently, for one...
(Sometimes you have to wonder it there really IS a "Rocky Mountain Line" or "Durango" loco out there somewhere...)
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Posted - January 02 2009 : 8:51:05 PM
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Posted - January 02 2009 : 11:08:50 PM
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quote:Yet ANOTHER unique numberboard for the GenII F-7 is what caught my eye. Yet I had to wonder what made them use the GP20 number? So the answer apparently is, it was coincidentally eerily close to the number of that second unit in your picture. In fact, given the angle of the shot and similarity of the digits, it may well have looked to someone's eye like "56" instead of "65"28...
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I had noticed the similarity in the numbers, but I hadn't actaully thought of that. It's possible that that is the reason for the GP-20 number. Someone at the Tyco factory looked at the number of the 1960's model and then the GP-20 number and said "meh...close enough"
I looked up the later versions number as well. CN 5628 did exist, but it was an SD-75...not an F unit.
BTW, is your CN engine powered by a PT or a plastic MU-2? I've got one of each.
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Posted - January 03 2009 : 11:34:34 PM
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The weird thing is it's not the same board that the GP20 uses. The GP20 (and 430) boards are a different size and won't fit, no to mention a different font, so they made those 5628 boards specifically just for that CN F7.
It's a plastic MU-2. BTW the mounting post for the weight was broken, like several you have mentioned. Gorilla Glue fixed it right up, it looks and works perfectly now.
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Posted - January 04 2009 : 2:18:47 PM
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That is odd...I'd always just assumed they were the same size. The diffent font is obvious, but alot of Tyco's have that, so I never paid much attention to it. Actually, my PT powered F-7 has a different font than the MU-2 powered one.
PT on left, MU-2 on right.
Gorilla glue eh? I'll have to remeber that for next time. The tanks on mine are being held in by Walthers Goo. It seems to work, although one tank slowly started to slide out. I fixed it though.
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Posted - January 04 2009 : 3:52:41 PM
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| I hadn't thought of gorilla glue when you had your problems, but I've been using it a lot around the house so I figured "what the heck". I had a clean break of the mounting pin, and the weight & screw were still attached to the broken half. So I applied the Gorilla Glue as directed to the post, then turned the loco upside down and let the weight act as its own clamp. Worked like a charm!
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Posted - January 10 2009 : 11:10:00 AM
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Where you say actual prototype 0-o, this is a steam symbol for a 2-2-0. All your photos are of BB diesels. Steam uses numbers refering to wheels on axels. Diesels use letters and numbers. Letters refer to powered axels, and numbers to unpowered axels, AS B B, A 1 A.
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Posted - January 10 2009 : 11:25:40 AM
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Whoa, settle down there. He didn't say 0-o, he said O_o. Which is a text emoticon like how ;) means  except his find truly was more worthy of a  . Capice?
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Posted - January 10 2009 : 11:34:57 AM
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| one thing i noticed on front ends was one seems to be tampo/painted on other a crude sticker that is like i am sometimes piddled if you get my drift ken
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Posted - January 10 2009 : 11:44:02 AM
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Actually, there may yet be an "exception to the rule" I am forgetting or not aware of, but... there are no Tyco locos with painted or stamped nose logos/heralds. They have always been decals.
Interestingly, paint stripes and such as seen on F-Units didn't pose them any problems.
Just a little quirk of Tyco's production process and a way to identify an "unknown" item.
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Posted - January 12 2009 : 01:15:56 AM
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| GoingInCirclez is correct that in railfan parlance B-B would be the correct way to refer to a diesel locomotive with two trucks with two powered axles on each. However, early EMD builder's plates would read "0-2-2-0" for the same configuration. Since the prototype in this thread is most likely a GMD (Canadian Electro-Motive) product I can't guarantee what Canadian National 6536's builder's plate phrasing was.
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Posted - January 12 2009 : 01:17:44 AM
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| My apologies, Toptrain actually made the reference to "B-B" terminology.
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Posted - January 12 2009 : 06:09:21 AM
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"Actually, there may yet be an "exception to the rule" I am forgetting or not aware of, but... there are no Tyco locos with painted or stamped nose logos/heralds. They have always been decals.
Interestingly, paint stripes and such as seen on F-Units didn't pose them any problems.
Just a little quirk of Tyco's production process and a way to identify an "unknown" item."
hi tony i have looked at mine very closely and as usual you are correct,i am just lucky that mine are not as obvious,ken
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