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Pennsylvania/Santa Fe and others have a freight colour and a passenger colour does union pacific not do this if not,how do i know what locos pulled what ken
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True, both psgr. and freight units used UP's 'Armour' yellow, so the best identification is by engine type. UP used a lot of E units for passenger trains. Of course, some units like F's could be dual-purpose, and Alco PA's were definitely passenger. Many UP streamliners used the yellow scheme, but some used the 'Overland' gray scheme. You'd be pretty safe with E's and PA's for passenger trains.
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what about 80s 80s and 90s,you may think this silly question,but are all railroads just freight,with amtrak doing all passenger routes ken
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As a rule, yes, by the 80's-90's, most U.S. railroads were freight only, with Amtrak operating long distance passenger. Of course, all rules have exceptions, like the Southern, Rock Island, and D&RGW who opted out of Amtrak--but even they were out of psgr. business eventually. You could talk about short lines, tourist lines, and commuter lines; but for the most part, all we have now is Amtrak.
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we in uk are somewhat the reverse,passenger services are popping up daily,freight is mainly ews ken
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Difficult for each side of the pond to fathom, I suppose...we can't see how passengers can sustain a railway, and British railfans would probably like to see a 10,000 ton coal train being hauled by 12,000 h.p. worth of locos!
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also as from january ews becomes DB Schenker West,we are then under the german freight name,ken
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Speaking of defunct U.S. passenger service, here's a neat station I found in Southwestern Oklahoma this weekend on a little jaunt. It's Hobart, Oklahoma, the Rock Island branch line having been abandoned for years and years. The station is now a bit of a museum, but it's size and architecture show how important passenger service once was even in this town of maybe 1,000.
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hows this hobart station tasmania,prefer your one,ken


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Interesting--don't know where you pulled that thought out from! And speaking of strange thoughts, just south of Hobart, Ok., we happened upon this unusual holiday decoration alongside the highway!
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now that is a thought,but at my age i prefer the car ken
ps a nice photo
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Ken,

I wonder how DB Schenker is going to paint their British trains! Red, like the German ones are?

A few years ago we had the Cl. 59 here, running under the DB Yeoman name. And now, the Cl.66 is a common sight on German private lines.

GB is quite colourful regarding the passenger services, I used VAGN (Stansted Airport Express), FGW and Southwest Trains, they are doing a real good job! Btw, VAGN sounds kinda Swedish (now carrying another name, can't remember which, is it Anglia?).

Hornby had a fictional Cl. 91 some years ago in DB-red, they were far ahead of time....

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hi martin keep watching this site to find out ken
http://www.ews-railway.co.uk/
passenger rail companies
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/tocs_maps/tocs/

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