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Don't post parts here ! Not someone's store !
Don't post parts here !
Lionel HO photo posts list.
post 01, 11 25 08, 0645LTSW, SP, 4-6-2
post 07, 03 26 09, 0625LT, SP, 4-6-2
post 09, 0635LTS, SP, 4-6-2
post 10, 0636LTS, SP, 4-6-2
post 11, John English 4-6-2 RDG 605. Lionel made their 4-6-2 from these dies.
post 12, 0607LT , no, 0-4-0t
post 18, 0602LT, PRR, 0-6-0
post 23, 5-6501, Freedom Train, 4-8-4
post 27, 0057 & 0545 small diesels
post 28, 0817 Southern Pacific Caboose
post 36, 0805 Seaboard radoactive car
post 37, 0366 automated milk car
post 38, 5402 UP GP7
post 39, 5510 B&O GP7 Chessie System Gold
post 43, 5513 American Flyer GP7
post 44, by Going in Circlez, 4 photos
*______ 1 5610, C&O GP7
*______ 2 GOLD, B&O GP7
*______ 3 0593, NP GP7
*______ 4 0593, NP GP7 opp side
post 51, 0834 Poultry Dispatch car
post 53, 0581 E33 PRR and a second E33 repainted
post 56, 0593 again by nickel plate
post 64, 0865 225 gondola Michigan Central, tan
post 67, 0865 250 gondola Michigan Central, red
post 70, 0056 Hussler, AEC changed to NBC very special. 3 photos of. by Romcat
post 73, 5514 Southern, diesel loco, by joyz76
*______5521 CP Rail, diesel loco
post 78, 0870 Pennsylvania Work Platform car
post 80, 0850 US Army Missle car
post 81, 78574 SRR stock car
post 83, 0872200S REA express reefer in for repairs.
post 84, 0889 IC work crane
post 87, #6100 by senselessfool, HO raceway set. I would call them a railcar set.
post 90, Wabash GP7, and Hussler DRGW with plow By SOU2645
post 91, 8175 ATSF 40' "El Capitan" reefer made by Rivarossi by sale by Lionel
post 92, 2042 LAPX, 40' box car, Linde Co. Union Carbide
post 93, 51604 IC reefer by Rivarossi for Lionel
post 94, 0862 200 gondola Michigan Central, black
post 96, 0597 GP7 Northern pacific by jeremy
post 99, 58614 box car Grand Truck Wester
post 102, 0856 AEC diesel plymouth, by sou2654
*______, 0817, AEC caboose
post 104, Set box 5719. AEC diesel freight set. sou2645
post 102, Set 5719 open box. sou2645
post 112, 0531,# on car, 2376, F7A Milwaukee Road. DaChese. from 1958 catalog.
post 114, 0055, M&StL Hussler diesel.
post 115, 0872200, REA box car.
post 116, 0800, flat with plane. NKP 1958. from 1958 catalog.
post 117, 0875, flat with boat.
post 119, 8740, reefer Coor's Golden. By The Buss. ( opps missed this one late listing)
post 123, 0874, B&M box car.
post 124, 5600, FA1 Santa Fe Blue nose war bonnet.
post 129, 0357, Cop and Hobo car complete.
post 130, 0642LT, 2-4-2 steam engine should have a switching tender.
post 134, 08361, Alaska Railroad 4 bay hopper car.
post 135, 0505, IC FM C-Liner, nickel Plate 759.
post 137, 0864300, Alaska RR Box car, spiderj76.
post 138, 0847, Exploding box car. spiderj76.
post 139, 0500-117, replacement motor brushes and cleaner.
post 143, #181 BN GP30. by spiderj76. His first set!
:______, 88401, GT box car.
:______, 78555, BN 4 bay hopper.
:______, 78556, RG 4 bay hopper.
:______, 48416, Dow chem, 3 dome tank. maybe wrong #.
:______, 98601, BN caboose.
:______, 88400, CP rail box car.
post 145, ? 8701, CR box no Lionel marking ??? by AMC Grenlin
post 147, 0642, 2-4-2 PRR
post 148. 0643, 2-4-2 PRR
post 155, 0565 - 0575 Santa Fe FA-FB 1 by Scale Craft
post 156, 5504 FA1 freedom train by Scale Craft
post 157, 5400 FA1 santa fe by Scale Craft.
post 158, 5600 FA1 santa fe by Blue nose war bonnet. by Scale Craft.
post 159, 5400 FA1 # 5400 and 0565 comparison views. by Scale Craft.
post 161, 0598 NYC GP7 by Scale Craft
post 165, 0596-0598 NYC GP7
post 172, 0642 2-4-2 undec tender
post 174, 0863, SP flat with 3 train truck load
post 175, T-20171 Canadian National caboose. by Mike ! ( late sorry missed it)
post 176, 0565 FA1 santa Fe
post 179, 0873 horse transport car
post 180, 0581 E-33 electric loco, PRR
post 181, 6287 Wabash box car
post 182, 78571, Rath stock car
post 191, 78575, NYC stock car " the chicken car "
post 192, 0837 ? , Giraffe circus car. Post by "Ben the Buss". number not clear.
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Here is the best American made Lionel 4-6-2. 0645 LSW. This locomotive had a headlight. Puffed Smoke. And had a whistle.
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Posted - November 25 2008 : 3:12:17 PM
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Frank,
I have the 0625, which doesn't have the smoke or whistle. That long haul tender dwarfs the loco. Obviously they needed the room.
Mine had the cracked nylon axle gear, but I finally tracked down a replacement wheelset. If anyone needs a set of drivers for these with a brass gear, I still have a bunch of them.
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Posted - November 27 2008 : 08:58:42 AM
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Lionel made the long haul tender by reworking the HObbyline Berkshire tender from the plastic kit.
frank
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Posted - November 28 2008 : 04:11:27 AM
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Cool, I didn't know that. That's the first 0645 I've seen.
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Posted - November 30 2008 : 1:18:25 PM
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Does the engine run fairly decent? Is it a rare engine?
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Posted - November 30 2008 : 7:55:05 PM
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Lionel pacifics and 0-6-0 unlike other LIONEL steam engines the 0-4-0 and the 2-4-2 of that era has a direct gear drive. If the gears are lined up properly and oiled it does run well.
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Posted - March 27 2009 : 6:22:51 PM
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Yup, Frank, that's the one. If it's like mine it has plastic spur gears with huge teeth that sound like a coffee grinder no matter how well you lube it. I'm not sure if they used better gearing in earlier versions. My instruction sheet says 1962.
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Posted - March 29 2009 : 4:12:09 PM
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Lionel Pacific # 0635LTS, with light and smoke.
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Posted - March 29 2009 : 4:22:08 PM
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Lionel #0636LTS, with light and smoke.
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Posted - May 24 2009 : 1:50:11 PM
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With lionel, it seams they made three types. The ones with just a light. 0625L. This looks a lot like the John English pacific. Lionel has the belpare fire box and is made of plastic. It added the Belpair fire box to alow the use of Lionels standard HO motor. John English is all die cast.
Here is a John English Pacific I painted for the Reading
Then lionel added smoke. 0635, 0636.
Then a whistling sound tender was added. 0645, 0646.
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Posted - September 03 2009 : 9:15:18 PM
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#0605 The x Hobbyline, Lionel 0-4-0t
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Posted - September 04 2009 : 01:17:29 AM
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 neat locos sir I'll bet Lionel HO goes for big bucks on Ebay BUT Is they rare?
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Posted - September 04 2009 : 01:32:09 AM
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I haven't seen many that were in as nice condition as the ones that Frank posted photos of,
The 0-4-0t is prety rare.
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Posted - September 04 2009 : 08:40:11 AM
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thanks Ray I didn't know if Lionel & others were rare But I'll keep an eye out for trains this weekend 
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Posted - September 04 2009 : 10:21:21 AM
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Hey Guys:
I have one of those. have to check which one. It runs ok, but slips because of the porly adjusted trailing truck lifting the drivers I believe...
I'll check the number on the cab later today....
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Posted - September 04 2009 : 5:26:52 PM
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Mines an 0636 as well it turns out.
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Posted - September 08 2009 : 4:57:02 PM
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Lionel PRR 0-6-0 switcher #0602 What do you think of the two headlights.
frank
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Posted - September 08 2009 : 5:26:20 PM
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Posted - September 10 2009 : 12:26:23 PM
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2 headlights?
Look at the boiler front you will see two headlights. Very different for a steamer of this type.
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Posted - September 10 2009 : 1:31:13 PM
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ah I see yeah the one on the boiler door & one on top ok  & real locos don't do that its one or the other 
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Posted - September 11 2009 : 11:06:00 AM
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Very modern ones will do that. The SP GS4 has a headlight and what looks like a second headlight, but it is a Mars light.
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Posted - October 18 2009 : 10:51:00 AM
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Here is a Lionel GS4 in Freedom train colors. You can see the two headlights on this loco also. I don't know which, but one is a Mars light that rotates in circles. Not on the model. On the real one.
frank
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Posted - October 22 2009 : 01:41:19 AM
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Hey there Toptrain,
I have a question for you,and please don't take it the wrong way.
Why do you almost always edit your posts? I mean every post in this thread has been edited by you.
Everytime I see what I think is a new post,and open the thread,what I see is that you have edited something.
I find that kind of annoying, not terribly so, just kinda.
Nice Lionel equipment you have there by the way.
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Posted - October 22 2009 : 09:15:03 AM
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Carl: In life I never get it right the first time. Something is spelt wrong. Something just doesn't read right. Maybe I found out something elese. Maybe I have a better photo. Maybe a question caused a rewrite.
Carl I would like to get it right the first time every time but it doesn't happen that way.
frank
Another edit. With this and a few other threads I have been making here and other places, I have indexed the photos in the thread. To help find them I put post numbers on the threads I could edit. You can see it in the first thread here in Lionel HO. When a person opens this thread and is looking for a certan piece, the index helps locate the photo. Especialy with Lionel. With Lionel everything is numbers.
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Posted - October 22 2009 : 11:47:47 AM
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I gotcha Frank,
Not a problem.
Very nice Lionel HO collection you have.
I only have about 6 or 7 Lionel HO freight cars.
I used to have the little M&St.L Diesel Hustler switcher years ago,but I regret now selling it.
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Posted - November 04 2009 : 11:20:14 AM
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Lionel made so many steam locomotives in the Southern Pacific road name and maybe someone wants to see the caboose that went with these locomotives.
lionel # 0817
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Posted - November 10 2009 : 09:34:04 AM
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Hey Frank,
Where did that center cab shell come from? Is it Lionel or another maker?
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Posted - November 10 2009 : 09:49:13 AM
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quote:Where did that center cab shell come from? Is it Lionel or another maker?
Originally posted by Hypoponera-November 10 2009: 09:34:04 AM
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Greenberg's Guide to Lionel-HO Volume 1 1957-1966 calls the Erie Center Cab a GE 44-Ton Switcher. Cataloged in 1961, as a separate release and in Lionel set 5751. Returned in '62, separately and in set 14013. The guide states the Erie is, "rarest of all small units."
Very Cool Loco.
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Posted - November 10 2009 : 11:35:17 PM
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| Is that one riding on the correct chassis? Seems like alot of space between the pilot and chassis.
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Posted - November 11 2009 : 08:10:40 AM
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quote:Hey Frank,
Where did that center cab shell come from? Is it Lionel or another maker?
Originally posted by Hypoponera-November 10 2009: 09:34:04 AM
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Lionel made the center cab diesel body. If you are farmilar with their 0-27 they had a center cab in that size also.
frank
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Posted - November 11 2009 : 08:13:30 AM
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quote:Is that one riding on the correct chassis? Seems like alot of space between the pilot and chassis.
Originally posted by Hypoponera-November 10 2009: 11:35:17 PM
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Lionel used a existing drive to power the center cab. It was the hussler drive. The same as on the UP small diesel in post 27.
frank
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Posted - November 12 2009 : 03:25:25 AM
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Hey TopTrain, I enjoyed the photo's you posted in this thread. It's nice to see other vintage stuff besides TYCO. I really like the steamers. Funny thing is that if the HO scale boxes were'nt in the background on that 0645 steamer I would have thought it was 027. It has that Lionel look to it even for an HO scale locomotive. I think the wheels is what throws it off. Any idea whatever happened to their molds for these? I know Bachmann got the GS-4,and GP-30 molds....
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quote:Hey TopTrain, I enjoyed the photo's you posted in this thread. It's nice to see other vintage stuff besides TYCO. I really like the steamers. Funny thing is that if the HO scale boxes were'nt in the background on that 0645 steamer I would have thought it was 027. It has that Lionel look to it even for an HO scale locomotive. I think the wheels is what throws it off. Any idea whatever happened to their molds for these? I know Bachmann got the GS-4,and GP-30 molds....
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Alex; As far as I know Lionel still has there dies for that late 1950s to late 1960s HO train line. It is proably under some boxes in a warehouse somewhere. The dies for the steamengines and some of the cars were form a aquasistion of the John English line of HO trains.
frank
PS. See you at Allentown Pa. first frost train show this weekend. I'll be there on Saturday till after lunch.
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| post 36 hehe What do you know? Lionel saw the future of rail transport cars with radio active waste on them
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Posted - November 17 2009 : 08:32:40 AM
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At the Allentown train show last weekend I found this car,
Lionel Automated Milk car 0366
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Posted - December 02 2009 : 07:35:49 AM
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The lionel GP7 #5402
I didn't have the original drive it was missing more than half it parts. I placed a Athearn GP drive in it which fits perfectly. Athearn handrails also fit.
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The Lionel GP7 B&O Chessie System, Golden Annaversary GM50. #5516
This is all original except for the Athearn handrails.
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Posted - December 02 2009 : 11:24:52 PM
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| This may have been covered, but are the Lionel HO locomotives marked as being Lionel? The pictures look just like a couple I have and think are Athearns. I'm talking about the GP7's. I've got an ATSF and MoPac that look similar to the pictures above, but I think they're Athearn..especially the ATSF since it's got the rubber band drive. How do I know a Lionel HO when I see it?
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quote:This may have been covered, but are the Lionel HO locomotives marked as being Lionel? The pictures look just like a couple I have and think are Athearns. I'm talking about the GP7's. I've got an ATSF and MoPac that look similar to the pictures above, but I think they're Athearn..especially the ATSF since it's got the rubber band drive. How do I know a Lionel HO when I see it?
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lionel did put their name on everything they sold in one way or another. On the GP7 diesels I show. both bodies tho similiar in appearance are constructed different. The easest way to know if it is lionel is on the Athearn/Globe the cab is removalable. The lionel has the cab and body as one piece. Both Lionel GPs were clearly marked on the bottom Lionel.
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Posted - December 03 2009 : 1:59:25 PM
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I have that Chessie GP7, and another in the standard tri-color scheme (which is part of a complete uncataloged Chessie Freight set with map, iron-on, history pamphlet and other goodies). My Gold one does not have the stock# on the battery box though, IIRC (nor does it have half the front pilot, boo). I know there were a few variants like this.
The only other Lionel loco I have is a Northern Pacific GP7, with an error. They heat-stamped two different road numbers on the long hood, one right over the other. The embossings are both legible but the gold foil only registers one number. Can't remember what it is at the moment., maybe "603/607" or something like that. I've been given conflicting advice about this unit: some say it is a very rare / valuable unit, others say it's pretty common. I just like the paint scheme. And the drive is pretty cool... uses what looks like a giant spring for a rubber band, and the biggest light bulb I've ever seen in an HO car or loco!
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Here is my Lionel 5513, American Flyier GP7.
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Posted - December 04 2009 : 10:29:12 PM
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Here are my Lionel GP9's:
#5610, Chessie Tri-color. The author of the Greenberg Guide to Lionel HO Vol. 2 *HATES* this locomotive, and singled it out as an example of everything wrong with Fundimensions Lionel... but I don't think it's that bad. Has the terrible first-gen Kadercake but so did a bunch of their stuff (including all the rest of the #56XX GP9s). The paint looks nice... much better than anything Tyco did for Chessie until the SD24, and nowhere near as comically thick as that "American Flyer" engine TopTrain posted above!.
Chessie Gold, without the stock# on the frame. I much prefer it this way. Sadly, mine is a wreck. If anyone has a junk shell (with an intact rear pilot) and/or a spare trcuk for the GE drive, let me know?
Finally, my enigma loco:
Look closely at the engineer's side (second picture) and you'll see the error I was talking about. They stamped "0597" first, then "0593" on top of that. The Northen Pacific herald was paritally double-stamped as well! Brakeman's side does not have these problems. I can;t remember what the Greenberg Guide Vol. 1 had to say about this... I think they said it was rare, but they one they showed was different somehow? I don't have a copy of the book. And even if I did, we know how out-of-date those can get...
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Posted - December 05 2009 : 05:38:05 AM
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Okay - I need that Chessie Golden Anniversary loco now.
My wife is a Chessie NUT - she LITERALLY has an 18 year old cat named Chessie that is on loan to her mom. Her dad found Chessie at the railroad yard (CSX by then I think) where he worked. Chessie is sort of known for being FEARLESS - she will bite the tires of the car when it pulls in the driveway. She had her front paw run over by a train (side) and has been missing the right two toes of that foot almost all of her life as a result. Likely swiping at a locomotive knowing her.
At least I'll be HAPPY being broke....
Anyone has one of those for sale, please let me know. I like it with the Athearn rails, btw.- I assume they are solid brass to match?
Rus
Starting my Tyco and other favorites collection over again after 37 years.
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Posted - December 05 2009 : 09:22:39 AM
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| why is the Chessie painted in gold anyway?
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Posted - December 05 2009 : 10:15:13 AM
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It's a 50th Anniversary (Golden Anniversary) issue.
Rus
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Posted - December 05 2009 : 10:46:06 AM
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A set of Kemtron brass stantions and brass wire would look nice on the gold Chessie loco.
Ray
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Posted - December 05 2009 : 11:34:45 AM
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| thanks did wonder I likes the American Flyer loco Now I believe that there was a real Lionel loco near where the Lionel factory was It was on a tourist rail I believe Need to find a pic of it
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Posted - December 07 2009 : 08:46:38 AM
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| regards the athearn emd 50th anniversary loco, microscale did the decals for it if you wanted to do your own ken
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Posted - December 10 2009 : 10:06:49 AM
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post 51
0834 Poultry Dispatch Car
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Posted - December 10 2009 : 11:02:13 AM
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| neat car gotta find one someday
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Posted - December 28 2009 : 6:33:50 PM
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I have two Lionel E33 electrics one is a PRR 0581 all original, and the other was a Virginian. The Virginian was repainted by me to a PRR. The repaint has a Athearn drive.
frank
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